Resident Evil Apocalypse is better than women

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I hope I never crossed any lines with my femme-nazi jokes and after this I'll lay off on them. However, please feel free to cap on me for being a stupid 16 year old who really doesn't know that much anyhow. Just because I've dealt with pain and suffering doesn't mean I understand the full spectrum of emotion; there's a lot more to life than toughing out hardships as I'm starting to learn.

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Naw, there was not really any line crossed. I just figured you didn't know where that term came from, what feminism was really all about, etc. You do have a tendency to "shoot mouth, find out what I'm shooting mouth about later.", but then again, so do I. I have just learned to do it less.Thanks also for coming clean about the set up.I would still encourage you to read anything by Gloria Steinem if you want to learn about feminism. Feminists believe in your right, as a male, to do anything you want (including staying home with kids, or being a nurse, or whatever), and for society to allow you to feel the whole range of human emotions without shame.

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academia is shaping our new society... not the other way round. you may be offended that it is your opinions that don't particularly matter, but deal with it. that's the way life works.

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...except that if nobody pays any attention and everybody copnsiders academic feminism irrelevant, or fringe, then that's where it will stay.You still haven't told me which man-hating feminists are considered in the "mainstream".

My point in bringing up the comedy featuring how women love money, date assholes, etc. was because the person I was responding to claimed that the reason that a comedian gets laughs when they say "Men are stupid" and boos when they say "women are stupid" is because our culture is feminized.I was countering their claim by providing an example of where comedians get laughs by saying women are goldiggers, etc.

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academia is our best translation and interpretation of reality.

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Good Grief, I hope not!

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in reality no body wants to fight or one-up each other or anything. people, in reality, want to eat and sleep in peace and to protect and be with those they love.

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If this was true for every human being, then this should be a very peaceful world.

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then academics filter it and analyze it and then you average people get the dumbed-down result on the discovery channel

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Then when us average people have to apply those theories to practical application, we find that they don't always work as theorized.

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academia is shaping our new society

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Give me a simple example of how academia shapes a society.
I'm only average, so keep it simple.

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A gentle answer turns away wrath, But a harsh word stirs up anger.

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and until you quit demonizing men who decide to stay home to raise children as "lazy bastards leeching off their women"

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Hmm, the last time I checked, it was feminists, among others, who are calling for paid parental/family leave legislation, which applies to men as well as women.

except that if nobody pays any attention and everybody copnsiders academic feminism irrelevant, or fringe, then that's where it will stay.In the UK at least it's pretty fringe. I did take some courses at undergrad level but only because the ratio of female:male was 20:1 - like shooting fish in a barrel.A friend of mine went for a job in a women's studies department and when he walked in the room one of the panel stood up and said with shock "But you're a MAN!" - he never got the job.

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If this was true for every human being, then this should be a very peaceful world.

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the issue herin is that the very few have great plans and use other means (like religion) to get people to believe what they want and to act in ways other than they might ordinarily.

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Then when us average people have to apply those theories to practical application, we find that they don't always work as theorized.

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your practicality is flawed.

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Give me a simple example of how academia shapes a society.
I'm only average, so keep it simple.

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oh gee i don't know. something random about evolutionary science or something. i dunno. i thought it was bullshit. it was academic afterall.This message has been edited by brennakimi, 09-21-2004 08:43 AM

yes but stand-up comedy is different from sitcoms. and if you can't figure that out, then you have serious issues. but saying that women are gold-diggers is not saying that they are stupid.but my case in point. this thread suggests that a movie is better than spending time with a woman. (i saw it. he's right.) and what has taken up the main conversation in it? feminist bullshit.

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but my case in point. this thread suggests that a movie is better than spending time with a woman. (i saw it. he's right.) and what has taken up the main conversation in it? feminist bullshit.

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Really? Misogynists appealing to "femme-nazism" because its PC to be anti-feminist proves your point? A point you make by referring to "feminist bullshit"? Umm, sure.

oh get over yourself.we need a little less "omg the suffering females" in this world.

well if i did tell you a few, you'd say you'd never heard of them and that it thus can't be mainstream or even legitimate. just because you don't know something doesn't make it false.i'll discuss feminist ecology. this discusses how men and their hierarchy and science have oppressed both women and nature. but my view of it is that it is a flawed relationship. women's closeness to nature (as they see it) is due to the placing of women into a solely reproductive role.
carolyn merchant
joni seager
judith mccombs
rosemary radford
elizabeth dodson gray
leonie caldecott & stephanie leland
judith plant
sam keen

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we need a little less "omg the suffering females" in this world.

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Then quit whining about being hooted at by men while you wait at the bustop.

Never heard of any of them.Never even heard of "feminist ecology".Therefore, they are irrelevant to my life.Perhaps you mean something different by the term "mainstream".When I have used it, I mean somebody like Gloria Steinem or Naomi Wolf, or Susan Faludi, or maybe even Deborah Tannen; people who's books have made it on to the NYT bestseller list, who have been widely read outside of academic circles.What do you mean by "mainstream?"

no, but acedemia tends to dictate the paths of actual philosophies, sciences, and arts. school is the center for human advancement nowadays, haven't you heard? no, but they're interpretation of pop culture is a key to the philosophy.as i said, there's not much point in arguing about unless you've gone and taken class about. see what the academic leaders of the post-modern feminist movement are saying. i'm really not making this stuff up. exactly. curiosity. i figured i'd broaden my horizons a little. that is, after all, what college is about. learning new things.well, i figured that i was for equal rights for women in the political, social, and economic arenas and that made me a feminist. turns out i was wrong. like i said, take a womens' studies class. i'm for those things; i am not a feminist. actually, it does. see the argument i made about fgm. traditional feminists would be strongly opposed to female genital mutilation. it is a system dictated by a man-favouring religion, designed to not only oppress and degrade women, but to physically injure them. post-modern feminists are not opposed to this, because their standards of cultural relativism are more important. the movement is no longer about women's rights at all.it's about "problematizing" archetypal social constructs. they actually use that word, "problematize." it's mostly complaints, and the first thing you learn about the philosophy is that either way, there are complaints. if something is being done wrong, doing the opposite also tends to be wrong. the primary principle of post-modern feminism is that true equality of all parties is impossible.like i said, try taking a class, you're in for a suprise.

like i said, i've sold or thrown out all of textbooks for the class, in disgust. so i do not recall.however, there's a really nice quote attributed to ani difranco (the recording artist) about why men can't be feminists. i can't verify it's veracity, but if she said it, it doesn't get more mainstream than that.