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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
If you believe in God, then you also believe in the devil, and when man gives legal contract to the devil, by sinning, for him to do what he wants to you.
How can you look at intelligent life, and think that it came from non-intelligent life? Or even better yet, from nothing at all, a random pool of mud. By a series of mutations, lol.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Is speciating a fact also?
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6475 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
quote: Why is this different if you do believe in an afterlife? Why bother looking for answers or trying to make a name for yourself when after you die, you will just continue living somewhere else..and forever? You can just procrastinate all you want since you have forever to get around to it? Also you have a limited concept of enjoyment as you have defined it. Why would I not enjoy figuring something out now that might be of importance to people in the future whether I am around or not? Should you just ignore your children since you will be dead when they are old anyway?
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agnostic Inactive Member |
riVeRraT made a statement about God showing himself - I asked him to give details..
To me that is topical This message has been edited by agnostic, 09-24-2004 06:16 AM
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contracycle Inactive Member |
quote: No, I'm not.
quote: Thus you confirm my charge - your whole argument depends on a manipulation of the term faith to describe radically different things.
quote: So what? You believe it - its still not true in any sense, is it? Yet you previously admitted that in the case of the sun, we know things about it. So you recobnise the distinction between a "belief" you read in a book of lies, and thing you actually know and understand.
quote: Umm, thats exactly what makes them subjective. Unlike the suns rotation around the earth, which is objective. Thus, again, you confirm my charge that your position is totally illogical and manipulative; you are categorising both objective knowledge and subjective opinion into the term "faith", andf then claiming that all knowledge is a form of faith. Thats a deliberate deception. Yes I know good from evil, thats why I know christians lie.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Why is this different if you do believe in an afterlife?
Because were we are going we may still be able to look down on earth and see directly the fruits of our labors. How sweet would that be. Then meet the people later on again. This message has been edited by riVeRraT, 09-24-2004 08:04 AM
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nator Member (Idle past 2170 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Yes. We have directly observed speciation both in the lab and in the field. Our inferred evidence of speciation from both genetic and fossil evidence is very abundant. Speciation is a big chunk of the evidence, the facts, that supports the Theory of Evolution. Remember, the theory is an explanatatory framework for the evidence, the facts.
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6475 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
quote: Or maybe you will see nothing the way you cannot see your afterlife from here..and then you are stuck in the same position as those who don't believe in an afterlife at all...or maybe after you are gone, your labors are perverted into something awful...or or or...none of this adds up to a shred of evidence for an afterlife or why not believing in one would have any impact on my quality of life except to emphasize enjoying it while it lasts instead of waiting for something else to come along.
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Admin Director Posts: 12998 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Diversions into off-topic areas are often necessary in the interests of clarification. Clarifying the distinction between the fact and theory of evolution seems to fit this requirement, the existence of God does not.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1467 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
How can you look at intelligent life, and think that it came from non-intelligent life? Or even better yet, from nothing at all, a random pool of mud. By a series of mutations, lol. Because that's what the evidence suggests. Because that model makes accurate predictions. Because your common sense doesn't count for shit.
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Loudmouth Inactive Member |
quote: The FACT of evolution is that organisms change over time. I was very careful in using the phrase "the theory of evolution". The Theory part of the equation postulates mechanisms that caused the observed changes. It is this part that is never considered to be absolute fact by any scientist, any scientist worth talking to that is.
quote: I tried for 20 years, didn't find him. I am glad that you have found something to live for, but don't expect everyone to have the same experience as you. Also, God and fossils are two different things and equating the two is not going to change the fact that religious revelation is different than scientific evidence.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Quote of the day:
the suns rotation around the earth
Awesome!
thats why I know christians lie.
Yes some of them do, as do some scientists, but not this one. If I am wrong it may not mean I am lying. Please don't resort to name calling, it's stupid. My point is humans seem to need some kind of faith.Whether religous or other. Maybe once you find God, you will feel differently.Peace.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
What species have we witnessed forst hand to change?
And how does evolution attempt to explain how intelligent life came from non-intelligent life. Please don't repeat the theory.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
dam!
This message has been edited by riVeRraT, 09-24-2004 03:55 PM
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Rei Member (Idle past 7013 days) Posts: 1546 From: Iowa City, IA Joined: |
It depends. What are you calling "non-intelligent life", and what are you calling "intelligent life"? Give me as narrow of a cutoff as you can, please (i.e., don't just say "bacteria vs. human", if you think "frog vs. dog" is "non-intelligent vs. intelligent".)
"Illuminant light, illuminate me."
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