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Author Topic:   Intelligent Design Symposium Review
Parsimonious_Razor
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Message 1 of 14 (144878)
09-26-2004 5:19 PM


I attended this conference this weekend, here is the information presented and some of my thoughts on it all:

http://www.parsimonious.net/symposium/Symposium.htm


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Parsimonious_Razor
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Message 3 of 14 (144974)
09-27-2004 2:06 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by Adminnemooseus
09-27-2004 1:43 AM


I did the website/link because I also wrote this up for a couple other groups/people and would have made more of a topic out of it, but I didnt want to start a thread that had the potential to debate a dozen or more topics espically if no one was guranteed to be around to defend the points. Let me know if anyone would like any more specific details or elboration on what went on.

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Message 6 of 14 (145398)
09-28-2004 3:09 PM
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09-28-2004 4:17 AM


Behe didn't offer much of anything new. His talk opened with that damnable mouse trap and went downhill from there. If you have read Darwin’s black box you know his talk. He used the same evidence with no alterations. I have read some of the debates he has had and seen problems pointed out to him he wasn't able to offer an explanation for. He didn't here either. The only "critics" he tried to answer were Russell Doolittle and anyone who quoted him because apparently he misinterpreted a paper he used in the rebuttal of Behe.
Towards the end of the speech he talked a LITTLE about his modeling of multiprotein complexes. From what I gathered he took a gene, duplicated it then determined what mutations would have to occur on both genes to make the two proteins complementary so they could form a complex. He calculated the length of time necessary for random mutation to get these mutations correct and not add others (basically the chance to get an exact sequence of mutations at random) and found it to be a LONG time. I don't think there is anything earth shattering there, it’s sort of a statistical straw man.

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