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Author Topic:   Using your common sense to solve a physics problem.
riVeRraT
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Message 96 of 188 (144567)
09-24-2004 10:12 PM
Reply to: Message 87 by NosyNed
09-24-2004 8:02 PM


Re: Good and bad
I can agree on all that, thanks for the input.
I do respect your opinion.

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riVeRraT
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Message 97 of 188 (144568)
09-24-2004 10:15 PM
Reply to: Message 88 by nator
09-24-2004 8:07 PM


revelation, schraff is the talkorigins poster girl
Thanks schraff, I really wish I had the time to go to college. If I did it would be more aimed at my current profession.

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riVeRraT
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Message 108 of 188 (144614)
09-25-2004 8:57 AM
Reply to: Message 94 by NosyNed
09-24-2004 9:42 PM


Re: Probably
You'll have to stop assuming that you know a lot more than you actually do.
You know, I argue stuff, but I do not claim to really know anything. I love to argue, because sometimes the truth comes out when we do. If there is one thing in life I have learned, is how little I/we really know. Also how it can change over time, as we see things around us.
Thanks for the compliment ned.

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riVeRraT
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Message 111 of 188 (144630)
09-25-2004 11:53 AM
Reply to: Message 95 by Rei
09-24-2004 9:43 PM


Well as a general rule of thumb, for the last 23 years I have been hanging ductwork in buildings throughout the tri-state area, I never hang something from something else.
I only hang things indepentantly of each other. So if I was there, I would have never hung the second catwalk from the first. The hangers must meet load requirments and fire ratings. So that in the event of a fire, it won't be the first thing to go.
Yes, I would have never done what they did.

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riVeRraT
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Message 112 of 188 (144632)
09-25-2004 11:55 AM
Reply to: Message 98 by DrJones*
09-24-2004 11:09 PM


No, I will when I have the time come up pwith the correct solution. I will not learn anything if you do it for me.
Besides showing everyone, I like to learn things.

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riVeRraT
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Message 113 of 188 (144635)
09-25-2004 12:03 PM
Reply to: Message 110 by NosyNed
09-25-2004 11:39 AM


Re: Arguing on no grounds
Understood.
I need to learn to express myself better, thats always been a problem for me.
Being in this forum as helped me greatly, and has actually prepared me more for the real world, and teaching people about God, and how I should go about it, so as to do it with love, and understanding, and without sounding like a crackpot. I only mean well.

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riVeRraT
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Message 117 of 188 (144803)
09-26-2004 8:29 AM
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09-25-2004 12:11 PM


Re: Teaching about God
Well, when first coming in here, I really didn't know what I was up against. Now I have a better understanding. Its been a great test of my faith. I believe there are still people in here who might need to hear a few things, that they haven't heard before.
Everyones got their reasons for not believe, and its educating to learn why. Like I said its its helped me to become a better person believe it or not. We got a long way to go, I'm not going anywhere

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riVeRraT
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Message 118 of 188 (144807)
09-26-2004 8:45 AM
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09-26-2004 12:03 AM


Re: equations are tools
Again, I will explain, that I am not saying we don't need engineers.
We don't need jerk engineers, can't you see the difference?

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riVeRraT
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Message 123 of 188 (145110)
09-27-2004 3:58 PM
Reply to: Message 121 by coffee_addict
09-27-2004 12:58 AM


Please lam, I never said jerk physists.
I also never meant all scientists.
I am so intrigued by magnetism. I really wish I could go to college and learn more about it. I just don't have the time. I also don't have the time to finish the first problem, but I promise I will. I will also consider trying to at least understand this problem as well.
When dealing with common sense, I fully realize that common sense can get you in trouble. Common sense does not also mean that you can figure something out in a day or a week, or whatever, but that you can indeed one day figure it out. Regardless of your training. Those who recieve training and pocess common sense, will figure things out much easier, and see things more clearly.
Tell me, do you think just because you can figure this out on paper, means that you can see whats going on? You might, but what about the next guy?
Isn't there a big difference between being taught formulas, and trying to figure them out on your own?

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riVeRraT
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Message 124 of 188 (145111)
09-27-2004 4:01 PM
Reply to: Message 121 by coffee_addict
09-27-2004 12:58 AM


What is λ ?

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riVeRraT
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Message 131 of 188 (145316)
09-28-2004 8:50 AM
Reply to: Message 125 by Percy
09-27-2004 5:47 PM


Crap, I knew that too. If you don't do this everyday you forget. I learned that through studying ametuer radio. ok.

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riVeRraT
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Message 132 of 188 (145318)
09-28-2004 8:58 AM
Reply to: Message 127 by coffee_addict
09-27-2004 7:21 PM


Yes, I do really see what's going on. One of the most wildly misconceptions regarding physics is that physicists can't really understand what the equations are saying. That is not true.
I figured you knew. You would be interested in a little project I am working on here. I trying to design a more effiecient electric motor.
I could probably use your knowledge to help me figure it out. But I think I am getting it anyway.

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Message 133 of 188 (145320)
09-28-2004 9:00 AM
Reply to: Message 128 by tsig
09-27-2004 7:38 PM


Re: Nonresponse
You are beating a dead horse, give it up already.

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riVeRraT
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Message 134 of 188 (145321)
09-28-2004 9:07 AM
Reply to: Message 129 by coffee_addict
09-27-2004 7:48 PM


Re: Nonresponse
I don't hate you Lam. I love you.
I also like you. I have stated before, that I respect what you have to say, because your posts make sense. We just don't agree on believing in God. If we knew each other outside this forum, in the real world, we would get along.
I argue things sometimes to get the truth out.
I came into this forum, to preach the gospel, not knowing how really smart some of you are. It has been a great lesson for me. Its been great to discuss with you.

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riVeRraT
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Message 137 of 188 (145329)
09-28-2004 10:13 AM
Reply to: Message 136 by PaulK
09-28-2004 9:58 AM


Re: Nonresponse
I can I be doing badly if I expect to be wrong?
And why would I not have a better understanding of pyhsics than a scientist who maybe didn't do well in physics?
Wouldn't you agree that some people can see whats going on better than others?
The reason why you guys are getting confused with what I said is that you think common sense and education are the same, its not.
Ones common sense can be greater than anothers regardless of education. Some of the best inventers in the world, had very little education.
That doesn't make me right or wrong. I came up with a common sense theory, and looked to prove it through those who are educated.

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