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Author Topic:   Using your common sense to solve a physics problem.
nator
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Message 82 of 188 (144524)
09-24-2004 5:28 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by riVeRraT
09-24-2004 5:20 PM


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I mean the ones that tell us how we should live based on some survey. You know the surveys that change everyday on the news.
The scientists aren't telling you anything, rat.
The NEWS REPORTERS are telling you, usually really poorly, the results of some study.
If you decide to change your behavior based upon hearing a soundbite you heard on the evening news, that's your problem.
Don't blame the scientists for poor science reporting.
Please also do not accuse scientists of telling you how to live. All the scientists do is give the results of a study. That's all.
It is usually people in the medical profession (who are NOT scientists) who take those findings and reccommend changes or whatever.

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nator
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Posts: 12961
From: Ann Arbor
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Message 88 of 188 (144549)
09-24-2004 8:07 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by riVeRraT
09-24-2004 5:32 PM


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What about discovery science channel, whats your opinion of that channel.
The Discovery Channel isn't very good.
You'd be better served by watching National Geographic programs, special presentations, and episodes of NOVA on PBS.
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I hear a lot of things on there that I don't agree with.
I mean these are the only things that people like me who only casually obcerve science through TV, and popular science, and discover mag, are going to give us information.
You could take a basic biology or geology class at a local community college if you wanted to fill in the holes in your knowledge and get a good basic education in these subjects.
You could also do worse than reading through TalkOrigins.
This message has been edited by schrafinator, 09-24-2004 07:09 PM

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nator
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Posts: 12961
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Message 159 of 188 (145605)
09-29-2004 10:05 AM
Reply to: Message 137 by riVeRraT
09-28-2004 10:13 AM


Re: Nonresponse
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The reason why you guys are getting confused with what I said is that you think common sense and education are the same, its not.
What you claimed was that you were unfetterd by education so you could, unlike those with education, "think outside of the box".
I explained to you that you cannot "think outside of the box" if you are unaware or ignorant of what is inside the box in the first place.
It just means that you don't know.

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nator
Member (Idle past 2188 days)
Posts: 12961
From: Ann Arbor
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Message 178 of 188 (145944)
09-30-2004 9:18 AM
Reply to: Message 162 by riVeRraT
09-29-2004 10:35 PM


Re: Nonresponse
I explained to you that you cannot "think outside of the box" if you are unaware or ignorant of what is inside the box in the first place.
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I fully agree with this, but that does not stop me from thinking outside the box.
Um, yes, it does stop you.
You don't know what's inside the box, rat.
By definition, you cannot think outside the box before knowing what's inside the box.
What we end up doing if we skip the leaning of what's inside the box is just waste a lot of time spouting off a bunch of ignorant, nonsensical, random garbage that anybody who knows what's inside the box will disregard immediately.
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Through my mistakes, I might come up with something, because I am not hindered by a certain knowledge. I would however make more mistakes due to lack of knowledge.
Or, you will make nothing but mistakes and never get anything right because you don't have a clue.

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