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Existence of Noah's Ark

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09-29-2004 11:02 PM 		Reply to: Message 116 by riVeRraT
09-29-2004 10:53 PM

Re: float an ark
Why didn't a larger area get flooded?
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09-30-2004 9:55 AM 		Reply to: Message 126 by riVeRraT
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Re: float an ark
Isn't that obvious?
It didn't rain enough.
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Actually, that is only part of the story. And now we can get to why common sense is not quite enough.
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The water spread out until it reached land that was higher than the flood level. The boundaries of the flood were determined by the elevation and contour of the land as well as the quantity of the water.
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Now on to the next question.
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Why did so many places stay flooded as long as they did?
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09-30-2004 11:02 AM 		Reply to: Message 141 by Buzsaw
09-30-2004 10:32 AM

But none of us was there so nobody knows exactly how long it's been that tall.
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Even though none of us were there to watch the Himalayas forming, we do understand how they formed. We know that they are very young in relation to other ranges. We also have examples of very old ranges and understand how they formed and subsequently, became worn down.
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Since we have a pretty good understanding of the processes on both ends we can say that both processes took far longer than 6000 years. For example, the Appalachians are among the oldest mountains we know of, dating back some 400-500 million years.
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10-01-2004 10:25 AM 		Reply to: Message 167 by riVeRraT
10-01-2004 9:29 AM

Re: float an ark
That is why I asked you why the Mississippi flood of 1993 lasted as long as it did? You still have not answered that question.
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What folk have been trying to tell you are basically four things.
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  1. The mechanics for a major world-wide flood would leave definte, clear and lasting evidence. Such evidence is not found anywhere.
  2. The mechanics for a world-wide flood would also lead to conditions that would preclude anything living through it.
  3. There is not enough water to flood all or even most mountains.
  4. Water runs down hill.
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So back towards the topic which is the existence of the Ark. There is simply no evidence for a world-wide flood as described in the Bible or other myths. Since such a flood never happened, it is unlikely that there is an Ark to be found anywhere.
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10-04-2004 8:36 PM 		Reply to: Message 207 by riVeRraT
10-04-2004 7:59 PM

Why wouldn't the heat be given up to space?
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10-05-2004 2:09 AM 		Reply to: Message 213 by riVeRraT
10-05-2004 2:04 AM

If you understand that, why do you keep saying that the heat could be lost to space?
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10-07-2004 10:39 PM 		Reply to: Message 239 by riVeRraT
10-07-2004 10:35 PM

Re: You are simply not equiped
Why does hail fall from thunderstorms?
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Because heat gets added to the system.
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02-23-2005 11:57 PM 		Reply to: Message 254 by Lysimachus
02-23-2005 11:32 PM

Well, hopefully Lys ...
... you will actually be able to show some evidence for the Ark. I don't think you'll find any of us will have any trouble accepting the existence of an Ark if you can really present some evidence.
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I think that the highest hurdle you'll have to overcome is explaining why anyone would build such a structure.
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But bring on your evidence, we will happily consider all of it.
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