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Admin Director Posts: 13023 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 1.9 |
We're making two changes in the forums.
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CK Member (Idle past 4150 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
hi percy - any timescale on those changes?
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Primordial Egg Inactive Member |
1) Does this mean there's no longer going to be an unmoderated forum?
2) What would be the general criteria or guidelines for a poster's privileges to be restricted to remedial? Is it just debating skills, or will appalling lack of punctuation and unreadability also be considered? PE This message has been edited by Primordial Egg, 10-06-2004 10:33 AM
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Admin Director Posts: 13023 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 1.9 |
The changes have already been made.
Bad punctuation and grammar are probably insufficient to be sent to Remedial, unless the result was consistent incomprehensibility. Here's a partial list of qualities which I think if consistently demonstrated would send one to the Remedial forum:
By the way, now that I actually see the name Remedial in the forum list, it looks a bit too penal for my taste. I originally suggested Not Ready for Prime Time to the other moderators, which has much more of an optimistic feel to it for me. Or maybe Preparing for Prime Time. I'm open to other name suggestions, too. Added by edit: Yes, it means there will no longer be any unmoderated forums. This message has been edited by Admin, 10-06-2004 11:24 AM
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CK Member (Idle past 4150 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
I still have a listing for "free for all" in sideorders (clicking,however, does take you to the Remedial folder).
I can't see a listing in main ?
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Dr Jack Member Posts: 3514 From: Immigrant in the land of Deutsch Joined: Member Rating: 8.4 |
A correction:
Incomprehensibility. (Unless you're Brad)
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
How about rparateur. Sounds better.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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Ooook! Member (Idle past 5837 days) Posts: 340 From: London, UK Joined: |
It may sound like nitpicking but I think you've got as point about the name. I imagine I'd be quite peeved at having my full posting status taken away from me for starters, getting put in the Special Needs class would antagonize me even further.
Can it be given a less provacative title? (He says while not being able to think of a good one himself)
Edit: Changed to be more relavent to discussion. That'll teach me for not reading far enough down the thread !!!! This message has been edited by Ooook!, 10-06-2004 12:11 PM
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coffee_addict Member (Idle past 499 days) Posts: 3645 From: Indianapolis, IN Joined: |
How about the newbie forum?
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purpledawn Member (Idle past 3479 days) Posts: 4453 From: Indiana Joined: |
How about "Debating Basics" or "Prepare to Debate"
It would be nice to get some feedback on whether one is debating correctly or not.When people don't answer, one starts to wonder. "Debating Bootcamp" also a thought. A gentle answer turns away wrath, But a harsh word stirs up anger.
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9003 From: Canada Joined: |
Personally, I'd call it the "Kindergarten". I believe that it is necessary to make it very clear to those restricted there that it is because they aren't up to snuff yet.
Is this a mean streak coming out? Have I been here too long? (editted to correct spelling -- boy am I glad that isn't going to get one put in the "kindergarten" ) This message has been edited by NosyNed, 10-06-2004 05:18 PM
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Ooook! Member (Idle past 5837 days) Posts: 340 From: London, UK Joined: |
boy am I glad that isn't going to get one put in the "kindergarten" Me too!!! My spalling is attroosious.
Is this a mean streak coming out? Ned! I'm glad to see you have one. On a (slightly) more serious note: One of the things debate forums need is new blood. If EvC puts people off by seemingly looking down it's nose at people who might not fit in with the accepted debate format then its not going to prosper (just my opinion). EvC should try and present an honest and non-intimidating front of "this is the way we debate here", and that should include the 'remedial' forum (again just my opinion).
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9003 From: Canada Joined: |
The Debate Bootcamp forum is to be considered a training ground for those who have not demonstrated an ability and/or willingness to debate well.
For those who have full privileges it should not be considered a place to carry on "regular" debates. If you have full privileges you should focuss your posts to the Debate Bootcamp forum on assisting those who need help. For example: A "bootcamp" poster posts this message:Evolution is just a theory it should not be taught as fact in our schools. The desirable response of more capable posters should NOT be: You do not know what a scientific theory is. There are facts that show that living things have, in fact, evolved. A scientific theory is NOT just a guess. It is the best explanation that we have for e set of obervations. The fact is that things have evolved. The ToE (theory of evolution) is the scientific explanation of how that happened. Then more blah blah blah and so on. Instead you might try something like this: Thank you Mr Bootcamp. When debating here there are a number of things you should do. Here are some suggestions: You've stated an opinion widely prevalent among Creationists, and it has been discussed here many times. By perusing some of the old threads you may find that your point of view has been discussed already. Also, while there's nothing wrong with discussing the topic again, it has been discussed to the point where yet another thread on the topic should provide some fresh insights or have a unique perspective. If we did discuss this topic you'd quickly discover that the correct meaning of fact and theory are important to this topic. Therefore you might want to research how these words are used within the sciences. You should at least state clearly what your own definitions are since it is apparent from your post that your use of the words (especially theory) are in no what the same as the general use in the scientific community. For those of us (most all of us I'd say ) who find it difficult to avoid engaging those who are in the "bootcamp" forum let me remind you:"Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics; even if you win you're still retarded". If there is any hope for those who are confined to the Debate bootcamp forum it can only come from those who do understand how to conduct themselves both within the forum guidelines and with a general politeness. In addtion, they will require patient teaching from those who are much better at conducting a good debate. If there is a lot of full on debating done in the Debate bootcamp forum by those who are not restricted to it the solution may be to take those folks and restrict them to it. Get the drift here? mmm? I would like some thoughts and suggestions from others on the above. Thanks.
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CK Member (Idle past 4150 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
can i suggest that you close all the "carryover" forums in debate bootcamp?
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Nighttrain Member (Idle past 4016 days) Posts: 1512 From: brisbane,australia Joined: |
[Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics; even if you win you're still retarded]
Naughty,Ned. the PC word is 'challenged'. How`s about something like 'Honing your Debating Skills'. This might not be as offensive to the intellectual giants who come to conquer all with their infallibility. :-P
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