Genesis 1 vs. Genesis 2

It's not a reversal, though. It's a change in order.But I love that the only way for you folks to wave away this contradiction is with these extra-Biblical flights of fancy about engineering and bridges and "getting more specific." Where in the text, exactly, do you find support for this interpretation?Whatever happened to being literal? There's a literal contradiction here.

Engineers make mock-ups because their designs are not always perfect, and they make mistakes.Do you believe that God makes mistakes? If not, why would he need to build mock-ups?Do you think about these things before you say them, or do you simply cast about for any explanation at all?

"She canna take the strain, Cap'ain!""My God man, you're talking about human lives!""Scotty, Bones, please. I'm trying to seduce this green woman."

Of Shakespeare? Where have you been? Off the top of my head, I can think of at least 4 individual movements to challenge the traditional (or "Stratfordian") authorship of Shakespeare's plays: the Oxfordians, the Marlow-ians, the Baconites, and the Derbians. But there have been others.And "hellbent" certainly describes the outlook of the Oxfordians, at least, who fight tooth and nail to defend Edward de Vere, 17th Earl of Oxford, as the "true" author of the plays attributed to Shakespeare (even though he died before two-thirds of them were believed to have been written.)You may believe this speculation to be "minor", just as your average person believes creationism to be a minor biological quibble. Nonetheless, these movements represent significant scholarly discourse.I cleave to the Stratfordian view, as do most scholars. I don't know anything about the Homeric controversy.

I'll go one step further. I don't think there are any new stories. There's a finite number of archetypical stories, maybe less than 20, and that simply won't change until the human condition is fundamentally different.As it is, though, all humans eat, poop, dream, fuck, and die. Until we add something, or no longer have to do one of those, I don't think the stories will change.On the other hand it seems like technology changes how certain plots can be resolved. For instance, An Affair to Remember is simply ludicrous in a world of cell phones.AbE: Oo! Oo! You could do stage versions of "Yojimbo", "A Fistful of Dollars," and "Last Man Standing" (the Bruce Willis/Christopher Walkhen 30's-era gangster flick). As well as "Star Wars" and "The Hidden Fortress."This message has been edited by crashfrog, 10-11-2004 04:06 PM