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Author Topic:   Who can be saved? A Christian perspective
coffee_addict
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Message 125 of 466 (149111)
10-11-2004 11:31 AM
Reply to: Message 122 by Brian
10-11-2004 11:22 AM


Re: Oxymoron Alert
Many people, including myself, would call what you just said the no true scottsman fallacy. You've created a definition of a christian that excludes just about everyone that you personally don't think worthy of being called christian.
Based on what you just said, buzsaw, whatever, riverrat, and a whole bunch of other homophobes on here aren't really christians because they want to take away people's rights, including my own, because they are homosexuals. I'd immagine that buz and his kind would disagree that hating homosexuals is the same thing as hating jews, but you get the idea.
If you want to go down the path of "he's not a christian because..." you will encounter a lot of hypocritical statements by many people.
It's not jar who you should be talking about the topic with. It should be buzsaw, whatever, riverrat, and other people like them that you should be debating with about what a christian really is.

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coffee_addict
Member (Idle past 495 days)
Posts: 3645
From: Indianapolis, IN
Joined: 03-29-2004


Message 130 of 466 (149122)
10-11-2004 12:00 PM
Reply to: Message 129 by jar
10-11-2004 11:55 AM


Re: Back on Topic
I disagree.
Who can be saved? A Christian perspective
First of all, I think that we are completely on topic when we were discussing what a christian is. It's like saying "all Lamists go to heaven" without clearly define what a Lamist is.
Who can be saved? If we want to go your path and not go deep into the definitions of things, then I'd say that the answer depends on what one views as a "christian perspective". There are more than one christian perspective, and I don't think we are going off topic by trying to explore what the various christian perspectives are.

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coffee_addict
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From: Indianapolis, IN
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Message 133 of 466 (149138)
10-11-2004 2:49 PM
Reply to: Message 132 by jar
10-11-2004 2:41 PM


Re: Back on Topic
This is my attitude before I openned my eyes.
It doesn't matter what you have done, what you will done, what you have believed, or what you will believe. As long as you believe there is a god and that god is the judeo-christian god, you are saved. I used to believe that you can be a mass murderer and still go to heaven simply because that's the way it is.

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