Candy and games and responsibility.

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sounds about right - most corporations are pretty dysfunctional in lots of ways.

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That's like saying, "Ted Bundy and Charles Manson are 'pretty dysfunctional in lots of ways.'"Technically true, but grossly understated.I was also looking for a reply to the second half of message #85.

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No I would not rob you.

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Seriously, Charles, in the very few times you have responded to any example from Crash or myself in which we speak in personal, rather than abstract, terms WRT the people who make up an economy, you display a callous, devious attitude that seems devoid of conscience, save not being willing to break the law.Even then, I get the feeling that you just don't want to get into trouble; if the law didn't exist to prevent you from getting more money for yourself or your company by immoral or unethical means, you would have no problem doing it.Why don't you want to talk about how your individual actions affect the actual lives of real, living, breathing people?Why do you refuse to address any example which requires you to empathise with a real person?

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Why don't you want to talk about how your individual actions affect the actual lives of real, living, breathing people?

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Why do you refuse to address any example which requires you to empathise with a real person?

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dunno - Because I got really bored with this debate about twenty posts ago? I'm sure that you can mind-read me over the net and provide me with another answer.This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 10-03-2004 02:04 PM

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dunno - Because I got really bored with this debate about twenty posts ago?

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Eh, bored?"Backed into a corner", I'd call it.

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I'm sure that you can mind-read me over the net and provide me with another answer.

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Um, why would I be trying so hard to get you to answer my specific questions regarding your individual code of business ethics if I was trying to mind read you?I can imagine lots of things, and I can try to paint a picture for myself through what you post, and also what you avoid responding to, but I really don't know what you think.That's why I'm asking you.The sentiments you have been expressing WRT capitalism aren't anything new to me. I don't, however, relate to them at all. I would like to understand what motivates someone to embrace them as you clearly have.I think that most people don't think at all about the consequences of their actions as consumers on the environment, other people, and themselves, but you clearly have.Since most of the people I know who have thought about it have not gone down the "all I care about is price and fuck everybody else" road, I want to understand why you chose that way to think about it.I mean, what IS your personal code of business ethics?Is it OK to do anything to anybody as long as it doesn't break the letter of the law? Are there some things that you wouldn't do even if they were legal, even if they could make you lots of money?

you know - I have been thinking of your claim that I am a sociopath.I was under the impression that this described someone who is unable to understand the actions,needs and motivations of others (not able to put himself in other people's shoes)?Well I can do that - but I still take the consious view not to care - That makes me amoral doesn't it?This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 10-13-2004 07:17 AMThis message has been edited by Charles Knight, 10-13-2004 07:22 AM