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purpledawn
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Message 6 of 164 (150472)
10-17-2004 9:56 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Rrhain
10-17-2004 6:46 AM


I have noticed lately the use of "an" before a vowel or vowel sound has been used incorrectly. Example: I went to an university for an interview.
I've noticed it a lot lately in printed books and correspondence. I was starting to wonder if they had changed the rules.
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Newspaper style that drops the comma before the final "and" in a list. That comma is there in order to make sure you realize that the "and" is the terminator of the list, not a conjunction between two items that function as a single unit in a list: "Bring bread and water, salt and pepper, and fork and knife."
Thank you, thank you, and thank you!
Now that individuals in the workforce have PC's, people write any way they want.
I'm a secretary by trade.
Don't forget the apostophe after acronyms (PCs should be PC's), numbers (two 4's), letters, and words discussed as words (too many and's) when showing plurality.
Phone numbers have a hypen between the number groups not a period.
The prefix "non" does not need a hypen after it every time it is used. Use a hypen when the root word begins with a capital letter.
The non-Christian explained in a nonagressive manner that noncompliance with the rules can also aggravate non-EvC administrators.

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purpledawn
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Message 11 of 164 (150558)
10-17-2004 9:03 PM
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10-17-2004 8:34 PM


Wow the "World Book Desk Reference Set Grammar and Style Guide (1985)" has the apostrophe the way I showed you. No wonder people can't type it the same. What year is the MLA?
How about your for you're.

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purpledawn
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Message 13 of 164 (150570)
10-17-2004 10:16 PM
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10-17-2004 9:42 PM


Sounds like I need to get a new style guide and see if they made up their mind.

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purpledawn
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Message 31 of 164 (150683)
10-18-2004 8:31 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by Tony650
10-18-2004 4:14 AM


The rule I was taught is that "an" is used before a vowel or vowel sound and "a" before a consonant or consonant sound.
In the case of "h" we have the following:
an hour - because of the vowel sound
a historical, house, horse etc. - because of the consonant.
They should have used an "a" before university because it has a "y" sound, which is usually a consonant.
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For example, "I have a hypothesis" vs. "I have an hypothesis" or "It's a historical fact" vs. "It's an historical fact."
You have a hypothesis and a historical fact.

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purpledawn
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Message 68 of 164 (151037)
10-19-2004 9:39 AM
Reply to: Message 66 by Rrhain
10-19-2004 4:45 AM


Redundant Acronyms
Rrhain,
I also looked at new style guides and found that the use of apostophes differs depending on the guide.
Excerpt from Grammatically Correct The Writer's Essential Guide
In cases of numbers and letters where no ambiguity is likely, some authorities say to include an apostrophe; others say not to. The trend today is toward the latter, but this is certainly not universal. Whichever approach you take, be consistent.
Looks like we pick a preference and be consistent. So I guess I quit complaining and just keep the person consistent.

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purpledawn
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Message 94 of 164 (152735)
10-25-2004 9:43 AM
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10-17-2004 6:46 AM


Of and Have
Using the word "of" instead of "have."
He should of said. Wrong
He should have said. Right
Most people say should've when they speak, which sounds like "should of."

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purpledawn
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Message 130 of 164 (153601)
10-28-2004 7:19 AM
Reply to: Message 119 by randylsu
10-27-2004 7:55 PM


Re: Speaking of up & down
Welcome!
I was stationed in New Orleans for a few years in the late 70's and I remember well some of the oddities. Being from the midwest, it took a while for me to adjust.
My first experience was when I ordered a sandwich and they wanted to know if I wanted it dressed or undressed.
Big adjustment.

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purpledawn
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Message 134 of 164 (153683)
10-28-2004 11:46 AM
Reply to: Message 131 by Tusko
10-28-2004 8:28 AM


Goes
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"Like" for "s/he said" is another obvious one.
Around here it is "goes" for said.
She goes instead of she said.
My Dad used to tell me (when he was breaking me of that awful habit) that cows go moo and cats go meow, but people say...

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