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Author Topic:   Probability of Life Arising Calculations
Dan Carroll
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Message 4 of 40 (150833)
10-18-2004 4:21 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by mike the wiz
10-18-2004 3:43 PM


Mike. The site you list to simply takes a whole list of probablities that don't show their work, and multiplies them.
If you go this route, you've made your job much, much harder. For instance, let's start at the top.
local abundance and distribution of dark matter: 0.1
How did they reach this conclusion? Feel free to continue down the list when you're finished with this one.
I might also add that they seem to be taking the odds of life developing on Earth, and then applying it to life developing anywhere in the Universe.
For instance, if life began off somewhere in the gamma quadrant (or what have you), then what would the mass of Neptune have to do with it?

"If I had to write ten jokes about potholders, I don't think I could do it. But I could write ten jokes about Catholicism in the next twenty minutes. I guess I'm drawn to religion because I can be provocative without harming something people really care about, like their cars."
-George Meyer, Simpsons writer

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Dan Carroll
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Message 18 of 40 (150865)
10-18-2004 5:37 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by mike the wiz
10-18-2004 5:26 PM


I think it's fair to say that I backed up my assertion Dan - I provided what you wanted
I'm sorry, Mike. I should have made clear that when I asked you to show your math, I meant all of it. Not just the last step.
Next time, I'll be sure to explain to you what a sixth-grader taking an algebra test already knows.
I don't even intend to go through it
What an astounding surprise.
Listen - this is your party - I was happy to stay in my cage in the faith and belief section.
If you intend to keep using the argument over in the faith and belief section, then it's most certainly your party as well.

"If I had to write ten jokes about potholders, I don't think I could do it. But I could write ten jokes about Catholicism in the next twenty minutes. I guess I'm drawn to religion because I can be provocative without harming something people really care about, like their cars."
-George Meyer, Simpsons writer

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Dan Carroll
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Message 25 of 40 (150885)
10-18-2004 6:27 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by mike the wiz
10-18-2004 6:05 PM


If you r reasonable Dan - surely you consider a supernatural creator as creating life - through creation, and then making it possibly evolve. How open are you to that possibility?
As soon as you can tell me what this creator is, and how it went about creating life, I'm more than open to considering it.
But as long as you're saying "I dunno", then why should I bother considering it?
Because it seems that these figures show that life is unlikely.
Without the work being shown, these figures are just pulled out of some guy's ass.
It's like me saying, "Math shows that there is no God. You see, the probability of there being no God is 1. Honest."
It's all good and well saying that life can adapt without showing it could in very inhospitable conditions.
The desert is inhospitable to humans. Life still exists there. It even thrives there.
remember Amhodli and Shraff didn't even back their assertions up
So go ahead and ask them to back their assertions up. I think they should... if someone asks them to do so.

"If I had to write ten jokes about potholders, I don't think I could do it. But I could write ten jokes about Catholicism in the next twenty minutes. I guess I'm drawn to religion because I can be provocative without harming something people really care about, like their cars."
-George Meyer, Simpsons writer

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Dan Carroll
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Message 40 of 40 (151382)
10-20-2004 1:42 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by mike the wiz
10-20-2004 1:01 PM


Edited out my accusation against sweetie pie Shraff, and replaced it with evil boy Dan.
I'm not sure why. To my knowledge, I've never refused to back up an assertion when you've asked me to do so. If I'm wrong, go right ahead and point out where. I'm happy to make good on it.
In the meantime, you just sound like a kid who got caught stealing a cookie before dinner, whose only response was to whine, "but... but... Amlodhi got to have a cookie! It's not fair!"
Well, I don't care what Amlodhi's mom lets him do. You shouldn't be stealing cookies.
This message has been edited by Dan Carroll, 10-20-2004 12:45 PM

"If I had to write ten jokes about potholders, I don't think I could do it. But I could write ten jokes about Catholicism in the next twenty minutes. I guess I'm drawn to religion because I can be provocative without harming something people really care about, like their cars."
-George Meyer, Simpsons writer

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