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CK
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Message 16 of 195 (151207)
10-19-2004 8:54 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by SEBASTES
10-19-2004 8:36 PM


Re: WOULD DARWIN CHANGE HIS THEORY?
quote:
Again, most of the people who are oppose creation have not even read the Bible.

Total assumption on your part - many of the people on here who oppose the idea of creationism are christians.

quote:
And no, the condensed version of either the Bible nor the Origin of species is not allowed

I'm not sure what you are getting at - what condensed versions?


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crashfrog
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Message 17 of 195 (151214)
10-19-2004 9:43 PM
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10-19-2004 8:36 PM


Again, most of the people who are oppose creation have not even read the Bible.

Actually, you'll find most of us evolutionists have. For my part, I used to be a creationist; as an English major, it's a formative work for our culture.

It's of significant cultural interest, after all. Why wouldn't we have read it? If only to understand the Biblical "model" our opponents are trying to advance?

Being an outstanding Naturalist, I'm sure he would have changed alot of ideas knowing what we do today!

I think one of the testaments to Darwin's genius is how little he actually would have had to change. Obviously, he would have had to incorporate Mendel's genetic work; that's really about it. Traits in organisms don't work quite the way that Darwin thought they did; but natural selection works exactly as Darwin originally formulated it.


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Message 18 of 195 (151224)
10-19-2004 11:38 PM
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06-30-2004 12:57 AM


Re: What about Moses?
Lmao!

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Message 19 of 195 (151307)
10-20-2004 5:29 AM
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10-19-2004 8:36 PM


Re: WOULD DARWIN CHANGE HIS THEORY?
WOOHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MUHAHhahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Message 20 of 195 (151308)
10-20-2004 5:31 AM
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10-19-2004 8:54 PM


Re: WOULD DARWIN CHANGE HIS THEORY?
NARGEGON!!!!!.........I COME TO ANNOY!! WITH MONGOOLA AT MY SIDE

NARGE!!

MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


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CK
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Message 21 of 195 (151311)
10-20-2004 5:48 AM
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10-20-2004 5:31 AM


Re: WOULD DARWIN CHANGE HIS THEORY?
Does your teacher know you are spending your lesson time like this?

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Message 22 of 195 (151346)
10-20-2004 11:24 AM
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10-20-2004 5:31 AM


Being Annoying
One more example of being annoying in this fashion and you will be in boot camp.

Three examples there and you will be suspended.

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{Adminnemooseus says: Skip the "Boot Camp". One more post of that nature should be cause for suspension.}

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Message 23 of 195 (151427)
10-20-2004 6:07 PM
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Re: Being Annoying
as a matter of fact u 2....i was technically doing my work.....coz me n mongoola were doing some research on charles darwin.........so muhahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2 u

anyways im at home now so it doesnt matter anyways


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Message 24 of 195 (151428)
10-20-2004 6:08 PM
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Re: Being Annoying
n wot the hell is boot camp may i ask

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Message 25 of 195 (151446)
10-20-2004 8:35 PM
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Message 26 of 195 (151450)
10-20-2004 9:14 PM
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Re: All Privileges for idiot and Idiot2 Suspended
Don't mean to bother an admin - but could someone maybe have a look at Mike Hager's thread to see if it can be put through?

" Is logical support for theism possible "


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Message 27 of 195 (151457)
10-20-2004 9:41 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by SEBASTES
10-19-2004 8:36 PM


Re: WOULD DARWIN CHANGE HIS THEORY?
SEBASTES writes:

Watching the various posts within this site makes me question peoples knowledge of Darwins own theory.


(1) Could you site some examples where evos here don't know what they are talking about?

(2) Some of the people you are referring to are real live scientists. The last guy that tried to be a smart-ass who thought he could outsmart scientists using his common sense proved to everybody that he didn't know what he was talking about. Refer to this thread for an example of what I am talking about.

(3)Could you please leave an extra line between your paragraphs like what I am doing to make your post a lot more readable?

(4) You stated:

To answer the question posted: Darwin did change his own theory within his own works. Being an outstanding Naturalist, I'm sure he would have changed alot of ideas knowing what we do today!

Could you give us specific examples from Darwin's own works for us to discuss about?


He's not dead. He's electroencephalographically challenged.

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Message 28 of 195 (151518)
10-21-2004 2:38 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by coffee_addict
10-20-2004 9:41 PM


Re: WOULD DARWIN CHANGE HIS THEORY?
(1) I would like to say that I am not trying to be a smart ass.
When I was speaking, it was a general comment. Not one towards
those that have read the Bible and Darwin's works. I will ensure
that comments made, will not be in the general sense.

(2) I can't imagine any naturalist, scientist, biologist or even
world leaders that wouldn't have change their thoughts as time
goes by.

(3) Do you think that we would have used the A-bomb, if we had the
technological advancements that we have today during WWII?
Knowing how smart Darwin was then, only makes me wonder what
theories or conclusions he would have came up with during our
times.

(3) As far as the Bible goes. Too many people try to put a time line
on Genisis. No one knows what the length of one of God's days
were. Was the assumed author of genesis speaking literal or
figurative while speaking of the "first week"? I personally
believe it was written from a figurative prospective.

(4) I will ensure to post a quote from Darwin within a few days.
I want to ensure the quote is verbatum. It was on his thoughts
concerning the flashlight fish.


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SirPimpsalot 
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Message 29 of 195 (151546)
10-21-2004 8:44 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by Mammuthus
06-24-2004 4:05 AM


As to knowing how complex nature can be, that was obvious long before Darwin's time and does not require incorporation of the supernatural to explain it...

This is untrue, to my knowledge........before Pasteur (who post-dated Darwin's theory, by a bit), it wasn't even known that there WAS microscopic life, much less how complex it was. People saw mold grow on meat and maggots pop out of it and assumed that life spontaneously emerged. What they didn't know (as Pasteur discovered) was that the mold was caused from microscopic bacteria......and the maggots were baby flies.......and they both had genetic codes which EMBARASS the most power computers in the world today.

in fact, nothing in science benefits from incorporating or postulating mythical supernatural causes.

This is not true. Ancient texts prove to be highly reliable time and time again......remember back in the day when Voltaire mocked the "fictional" Hittites spoken of in the Bible? Remember when Troy and the Trojan wars were thought to be pure myth? And, more recently, many ancient civilizations are being discovered which account for both the "myths" of Atlantis and Noah's flood.


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SirPimpsalot 
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Message 30 of 195 (151547)
10-21-2004 8:49 AM
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10-19-2004 9:43 PM


I think one of the testaments to Darwin's genius is how little he actually would have had to change.

From punctuated equilibrium to heredity to the Big Bang theory, this is simply untrue.......because scientists HAVE had to change it plenty to keep it viable.


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