Evidence for the Slowing Down of Light

JoeWith quantized redshifts and a probable centre to the universe (unlike the big Bang model which has no centre) then the creationist cosmology really does become the default model for cosmology. It leaps out of General Relativity. If you have an expanding universe from one originally high density location you will have a universe with time running billions of time slower at the centre. The naive creation week story of Scripture, so ridiculed, with stars and galaxies appearing during the week actually becomes the default cosmology. No kidding. High denisty with a centre = slow time. Fact of GR. Already proven by atomic clocks as I'm sure you know.This new analysis of the earlier fine-structure constant results are interesting and, if confirmed, will almost certainly become important in both mainstream and creationist cosmology.I agree with you that the slowing down of light speed per se does not really enter into the issue of age of the universe.[This message has been edited by Tranquility Base, 08-07-2002]

HalyconAre you aware of the creationits 'Big Bang' ideas of Rusell Humphreys? They are pretty much (creationist) mainstream now that the universe expanded fom a point near us automatically generating a time dilation so that the outer part of the universe experienced billions of years whereas the cental part only a short time. This is a breakthrouhg for us that I alwasy suspected - I never agreed that the galaxies were not billionos of years old. After the early part of expansion the two time zones run at the same rate. It's simply general relativity on a bounded space-time continuum. So the light speed issue may have more to do with ideas on decay constant changes than makling us able to see all of the stars although undoubtedly (in our scensario) both the light speed issue and the time dilation work together.The time dilation isn't a crack-pot idea - everybody knows that you get different rates of time near black holes. The creationist Big Bang is essentially the same thing. Humphreys started dropping his objections to the expansion/age of the universe when he noted that(i) the Bible talks about the stretching of the heavens
(ii) redshift quantization suggests we might be at the centre of the universe and hence the cosmological principle may be wrong and
(iii) without the cosmological principle the Big Bang automatically has time dilation built in![This message has been edited by Tranquility Base, 08-11-2002]