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Author Topic:   Darwin- would he have changed his theory?
crashfrog
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Message 179 of 195 (152404)
10-23-2004 6:11 PM
Reply to: Message 177 by SirPimpsalot
10-23-2004 6:10 PM


That's not how I roll......
You mean, thinking? Apparently not.

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crashfrog
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Message 182 of 195 (152408)
10-23-2004 6:16 PM
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10-23-2004 6:13 PM


I repeat, "why make new ones"?
What would make them?

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crashfrog
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Message 186 of 195 (152427)
10-23-2004 7:29 PM
Reply to: Message 183 by SirPimpsalot
10-23-2004 6:18 PM


Take existing ones that are found in living things......
Take them from what? And when the organism wants to reproduce, where do those new proteins come from?
You don't seem to get it, yet. It's not a matter of Shake and Bake proteins, not the least of which is because organisms are made out of more than protein.
Also, there's potentially a billion billion protiens. So, exactly which ones to you suggest we use?

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crashfrog
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Message 187 of 195 (152428)
10-23-2004 7:30 PM
Reply to: Message 184 by SirPimpsalot
10-23-2004 6:25 PM


The obvious answer is because there's a very precise combination these protein molecules must form......
Proteins don't really "combine."
See, its statements like these that betray your staggering ignorance of the fundamentals of biology. Biologists don't just make shit up, SP. Why do you think you can?
Take a class, for god's sake, if you want to talk about this subject.

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crashfrog
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Message 189 of 195 (152791)
10-25-2004 12:08 PM
Reply to: Message 188 by Dr Jack
10-25-2004 5:55 AM


Just a pedant's note, but the genetic code to amino acid conversion is not exactly the same for all life on earth.
Indeed. I understand mitochondria have a slightly different code, which substantiates endosymbiosis as the explanation of their origin.
But the fact that the standard code is shared by almost every organism is a pretty powerful argument for common descent.

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crashfrog
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Message 191 of 195 (152834)
10-25-2004 4:59 PM
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10-25-2004 12:16 PM


It's not just mitochondria
Ok, you can turn down the pedantism, a bit. I never said it was just mitochondria, and I never said that every single organism uses the Standard Code. I understand a need to be precise, or to prevent misunderstanding, but you seem to be taking a fairly strident tone against assertions I'm not making.

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