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Author Topic:   who is WILLOWTREE?
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Message 3 of 35 (153933)
10-28-2004 10:56 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by 1.61803
10-28-2004 10:43 PM

An amusing example
He is an amusing useful example of the kind of "thinking" processes that I think is representative of the "classical" creationist.
The word "classical" is used for Mike as he want to call him self a "creationist" and I am not saying that Mike is in the same group as WT.
Interesting I was talking to a friend who is on the board of the local united church. It seems they were all having a discussion after a meeting recently. They discussed what it meant to be called "Christian". It seems they all had one misgiving about someone calling them Christians -- they don't want to be grouped in anyones mind with the likes of the average creationist that we see here and who make a big deal about the label "Christian".
The fundamentatlists live in such a walled in little world that they don't even realize how much damage they do to the faith and how much they are looked at with distain by the majority of Christians.
WT is an example of all that.

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Message 9 of 35 (154012)
10-29-2004 2:22 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by Gilgamesh
10-28-2004 11:33 PM

I don't feel badly at all.
I think that the kind of arguments that WT puts forward and his reaction to rebuttal are very good bad examples of thinking.
The degree to which he demonstrates the weakness of the thinking of that side is the degree to which he is of value.
I don't believe anything I said (here anyway) was a direct personal attack. However, I do think that commenting on the quality of reasoning demonstrated and behaviour exhibited is reasonable. After a fair amount of time to allow the individual to learn better, of course, WT has had that time.
He isn't learning anything and his behaviour improves not at all.
He rants about people giving the impression of looking down at him. However, I won't apologize for feeling intellectually (though perhaps no other way) superior to someone who thinks that a list of distances between lat/long coords is "complicated numbers".
WT says more against himself than anyone could.

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Message 30 of 35 (156074)
11-04-2004 9:20 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by dpardo
11-04-2004 7:01 PM

Time for WT
I think if we give Willowtree time and opportunity, he will answer all of your questions.
The LLM topic was split off 3 full months ago. That was after some weeks trying to get an explanation of the calculations of the LLM in the Proof of God thread.
For weeks we have been asking how far the GP is from the seacoast. A single, simple map measurement.
I think there has been a lot of time. Do you disagree?
It is hard to believe that someone would be so attached to an idea that he would think that ignoring a simple map measurement was the only way to hold on to that idea. This kind of mind-set is so alien I'd like to try to understand it better. However, it does seem to be pretty clear that WT would never answer any questions.
The moving him to boot camp was done rather late and reluctantly. But in fairness to others it was necessary. His latest tactic of using it as an avoidance device shouldn't be, I suppose, too surprising.
I'll see if I can find more on WT and Milton and edit it in here.
IIRC, the first one was statments of Milton on the thylacine. That should search up easily.
this whole thread is where it all started I think:
http://EvC Forum: Willowtree's Scientific Evidence against Evolution -->EvC Forum: Willowtree's Scientific Evidence against Evolution
here is a short one on Milton
EvC Forum: Milton & selection
it appears WT jumped ship here
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