The power of prayer: in action

There have been many times in my life where I wanted to be a leader. However it wasn't granted to me. God knew when the time was right. It seems now that I do everything in his name, it all falls into place perfectly.I really haven't changed that much.

Sorry for the ignorance, but what is a yob?

I was thinking about your words in my spare time.
Its hard sometimes to meditate on what people say in here, because of time constraints. But when I sit down and spend time with God, and pray I get answers.The other thing is that it is a forum, and we are limited to it being just that. But I get a sense of peace from you, its nice.I wanted to ask you, you have forgiven everyone, and that is beautiful. Have you made any oaths in your life based on what people have done to you?

I have prayed about what you have said to me. you bring up a lot of hard issues, and sometimes I do not have all the answers. But the truth of the matter is that God has put the responsibility in our hands.There are several religions in Africa. I do not know if it is Christians being slaughtered, but God definatly answers our prayers when we are praying for help in such a desperate time as this. Those are the times that you truely call out to God.the best I can do in my life is to pray for them too, and go and help when I can. I may or may not go to Africa, but I will be going to different parts of the world to help. Our organization did do a collection for the victims in Burundi. It was our children over there that got slaughtered. Children that are being supported by Hope For the Nations.You seem to be getting mad at single incidents and refuse to look at the bigger picture. There are many things that will not go our way. God has taught us that from the very begining, since we ate from the tree of knowledge. By praying and getting closer to God, is not to worry about dying and going to be with him. Our purpose does not end here on earth.By you not believing in God, and in fact being angry about the whole thing, does not do a single bit of good. Instead God needs people like you to help sort things out, instead of making them more confusing. But you are a long way off. As time goes by, things will become clearer to you, and answer will present themselves. I don't think you are in any kind of position to judge God's priorities, as you do not know them fully. The situation you are judging is your own personal priority. Just becasue you feel its bad that people are dying, they may actually be happier now going home to the father. People in Africa could also use your prayers.Proceed.

So, one took longer to type out than the other.
Point made.
I think the actual numbers require a little more than what you put.We are bound by time and distance (same thing). That should be obvious.

Thats awesome!Can you clear something up for me then, you said Haven't you made an oath against churches and religion?
Do you still believe in God? Jesus?
How do you communicate with God if you still do?I am not judging your decsion, just asking politly for an explanation.

The numbers are longer in proving it.
2+2=4 is a proven statement, E=M is not without the numbers.You know what I'm talking about, don't be silly.
The Lunar eclipse was awesome.

I find it sad. But I am not capable of understand of how you got to that point, I only know from my perspective, which may or may not be wrong.I try to keep an open mind about things.An oath is like, when you break up with a guy, and you forgive him, but then you say to yourself, "I will never let a guy do that same thing to me again". In a sense you haven't really forgiven him. you have been altered from the way you were born by something that somebody did to you, not what you did to yourself. To me, it's how the Devil operates. These are hooks that the devil puts in you.I am still learning about it. I think in Feburary my church is having a conference on it, called restoring the foundations.If you had to sum up the reason why you left behind religion, what would it be. Thanks for replying.

I see your point, it is the way I thought for years.But when I say changed from when you are born, it is in the sense, that we were created to be a certain way in Gods eyes. This includes your growth in this world. anything that takes you away from the goodness of God is going to alter your path.Heck, anything that takes you away from goodness, even if you don't believe in God is not good for you, wouldn't you agree? That is proven in life, and not a mind game created by a church.Its the devil convincing you that the church is trying to do those things to you. Irony at its best, kind of comical. P.S. I am not saying all churches are good, because I believe that about 80% of them aren't.

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Hehe. It started with the tree of knowledge. God created us to be a certain way, that included having free will. Without being able to choose bad, we would have no free will.This is obviously true.

Thats not an oath, thats beautiful stuff.Isn't it amazing how we are so affected by what others do to us. It took me years to figure out where my own anger was coming from with my wife. Every single women in my life starting with my mother did things to hurt me. I so wanted for this not to be the case, that whenever my wife and I would start to argue, I would immediatly see the arguement through to the end in my own little head, and see her leaving me. that fustrated me, because it was the last thing I wanted. All I wanted was a happy family.Once I realized that it what happened to me in my past that was stirring up my anger, I got a better hold on it. I still carry around a little bit of the hurt, but God has healed me for the most part. As issues come up, I give them to God. Reconizing the attacks is key to nipping in the bud before it gets out of hand in my mind.Our minds are battle fields.I have been, married now for 11 years, it wasn't until 3 years ago that I had figured that out. My wife was saved when she was 12, I don't know how she put up with me all these years, I guess its because I am generally a nice person. I got saved this year, and it solved even more issues between us, and we have never been happier.This is a short overview, its hard to sum up a life story in a few words. But I know you'll understand.

God doesn't tell me to do anything. He puts things on my heart to do. Things that are always good. Its up to me to carry it out. Just like the devil can temp you to do something, but its up to you to carry it out.That is why man is responsible for all evil.You know good from bad? So do I. If there even was a question of it was bad, I probably wouldn't do it, and question where the thought came from.

Any of them.You think there is a religion out there that would justify such actions?
I am not talking about extremists, because they are obviously wrong, even if they think they are right.

I am saying there is no way we could even know all the variables to fully survey the results.How do we know who is true to God or not? Because that is a key factor in getting blessed by God. We can only go by what people say.