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crashfrog
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Message 9 of 53 (154603)
10-31-2004 12:07 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Buzsaw
10-31-2004 9:21 AM


Since the grave is the end to them, I don't understand why they spend their relatively few moments of existence trying to convince others that they should join their group.
When you say "relatively few", what are you comparing that to?
I expect to live for about 120 years, barring any unfortunate circumstance. That doesn't seem like "few" to me, but rather, "much." Especially since it's all the life I probably get. In that case, it's not "few" but "all".
There's much living to do. If you can't shake the mindset that this is all a brief introduction to the infinite main attraction, you're going to miss a lot of life.
After all, what reason would there be to think and act otherwise if the grave is the end?
Why, pure, unadulterated altruism. Unlike you Christians, who have to have a reward in order to do the right thing, or a punishment to avoid wrongdoing:
Many hate any who would preach any other gospel than theirs, especially a gospel which preaches accountability for the way one lives to be reckoned with in existence beyond the grave.
See what I mean? I know it chafes that we're better people than you, Buz, but I wish you wouldn't take it out on us.

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crashfrog
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Message 30 of 53 (154711)
10-31-2004 11:22 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by Buzsaw
10-31-2004 11:00 PM


Eternity.
But we don't have eternity. We have 120 years, tops. (Unless they solve some tricky biochemical problems.) That's it. That's all we have. Why waste it? Why would I waste all the life I'll ever have?
Go with God for ultimate fulfillment in life, though.
Tried it; wasn't really for me. I'm much happier as an atheist, though.
Relatively speaking, temporal life is as the apostle James says, like the grass that appears for a little while and withers away.
But compared to all the life we'll ever have, our life in this world is all of it. 100%. There's nothing "relatively short" about it.
Froggie, me friend, you don't understand Holy Ghost conversion atol!
Apparently, you don't understand altruism.

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crashfrog
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Message 40 of 53 (155078)
11-01-2004 9:10 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by One_Charred_Wing
11-01-2004 8:53 PM


You know, B2P, I think that if you follow your own path and are honest about what you do and say and the consequences, good and bad, that your actions have, I think you'll be a great teacher and a great preacher.
I don't think anybody should give a damn about what you do, or the "example" you set, or whether you believe in God or what-have-you. If you conduct yourself with forthrightness and can talk, without fear or shame, about the good and bad experiences that you have (and choices that you've made), then you have nothing to be ashamed of, and I think you'd be a great role-model.
Does any of that make sense? You strike me as a guy who's not afraid to be who he is, and takes ownership of his actions. If that is indeed the case then you have a lot of wisdom to offer.
But hey, what do I know? We've never met. And you're only 17. There's a lot of time ahead of you to learn to view your life dishonestly; I hope you can steer clear of that path.
This message has been edited by crashfrog, 11-01-2004 09:10 PM

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crashfrog
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Message 42 of 53 (155084)
11-01-2004 9:37 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by One_Charred_Wing
11-01-2004 9:19 PM


But seriously, when I read 'Crashfrog has replied to your topic' I thought you were out to kick some serious ass like you always do, but instead I recieve some serious encouragement from someone who I have learned is honest enough to point out any mistakes.
And have my own pointed out, I hope.
I hope you don't mind that I haven't participated in this thread; other than this, I don't feel as I have much to add. I'm not interested in trying to convince you of anything. In order to be a good preacher you're going to have to be the kind of guy that ignores what people tell him and finds out on his own, don't you think?
Be an atheist, or don't. But you won't be much help to folks with spiritual struggles if you've never had any of your own, I guess. The struggle is good. That's what you should be doing at your age; thinking through things like this.

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