Atheistic preacher?

Athiests have no message of hope to preach. Since the grave is the end to them, I don't understand why they spend their relatively few moments of existence trying to convince others that they should join their group. Some, in their hopelessness end their own lives prematurely when life becomes tough or unpleasant. They consider themselves to be accountable to no higher power, so there is no motivation for and no reason for them to consider morality to be of any significant consequence. They seem to consider the pleasures of the here and now to be the important thing in life and focus on the me and mine as the pre-eminent drive in life as to how one lives and relates to others. After all, what reason would there be to think and act otherwise if the grave is the end?Many hate any who would preach any other gospel than theirs, especially a gospel which preaches accountability for the way one lives to be reckoned with in existence beyond the grave.Having said the above, the above makes more sense than a deist who professes deism but lives in such a manner as I have described above applicable to the athiest in hypocritical disregard for what one professes.

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The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buz

If the Bible didn't make sense, I wouldn't go with it. It substantually answers all of life's questions and offers solutions to all of life's problems far more comprehensively than any other book. It also provides dozens of precisely fulfulled prophecies, proven so by recorded history so as for the ones who care to apprise themselves can be sure it is a supernatural revelation from God. There are many false doctrines proclaimed and preached in the world. One must do one's homework objectively and carefull as one would search for valuable treasure if one is to come up with the true ideology. The apostle Paul says, prove all things. That is not to say one can prove everything in the Bible to be true, but it does day there is proof in the Bible that it is from above and important things like that. The apostle Apollos proved to the Jews that Jesus was indeed the prophesied messiah of the OT because he did his homework on the prophecies and produced them. But if you're wrong and there is indeed a supreme being to be accountable to, you're in a heap of trouble in your future. Better be absolutely sure that you're not being deceived yourself. Please don't put words into my post. I didn't say true Christians never commit suicide. I believe far fewer percentage of them do compared to athiests, though I have no stats for this. I implicated that the ones who do these things are hippocritical Christians who comehow rationalize their actions before their maker and judge. If one is to go through life without any significant purpose, why should one spur on. For what? More would likely be more inclined to eat, drink and be as merry as possible in irresponsible sensuous and selfish pleasure than folks having a sense of responsiblilty towards a supreme being. True followers of Jesus don't persecute anyone. Any who do are not following the teaching of Jesus. Rather they become the persecuted, as Christ prophesied they would be. Some do and some others would if they could get by with it. Unlike the American soldiers, athiest Communists who conquered towns were known to do this all too often. Don't forget people like Stalin, Idi Amin, and the like and their people who, when they had the power were ruthless and brutal. Ninety million or so died at the hands of their largely athiestically inclined communist national regimes last century. 1. Both athiests several false religions and non-fundamental Christian factions are also brutal. True followers of the commandments of Jesus and the apostles rarely murder. The rare occasion where one does would be where one is mentally incompetent or in a very sinful state of mind. Anyone who has no regard to accountability to a supreme being would be a more likely candidate for doing such things as going out taking others who one has hatred towards along in a time of rage or despondency than one who believes in being accountable, imo. Please understand, having said that, that most athiests I know would never hurt anyone or think of such a thing. I'm just saying that the deterrant factor of accountability would likely have a factor on certain individuals more inclined to such evil actions. For most, it definitely would. There is, of course, consequence here and now for evil doers. By and large I think most athiests have an inherrant concience from the god whom they deny, which would definitely deter them from harming others. Many have Christian forbears who have instilled Biblial morality into them. In nations where this is not the case, there is less inhibition for them. Haite, the Congo and communist nations would be good examples of this. The largely Christian heritage of the US makes it one of the most tolerant nations to all religions. Fundamentalist Islamic nations are a good example of intolerance to other beliefs. He has a lot of likeminded coombodies on the planet to make my point, for sure, some of whom I've mentioned.

So long as they behave themselves and obey the laws I would tolerate them. Read my post statement carefully. I said, "hate any who would preach......." Jesus taught the true follower of his to love ones enemies and do good to them. I would welcome dialog with them. Muslim doctrine teaches the opposite. The communist regimes of the last century do so also, as did Catholicism during the inquisitions of the dark ages. LOL! The Bolshevik revolutions subsequent communist block proved otherwise. US athiests are different because of the Biblical Christian heritage of our nation and the influence it has had on our culture. A little good ole fashioned fear factors favorably towards civility towards others and society. Your notion that we are anxious to exit this life is silly. You're not responding directly to my post. It is more likely that when one is despondent, sick or otherwise miserable with life one's ideology as to accountability for one's actions would factor in with more athiests taking their own lives than Christians. Again, I have no stats on that. Most Biblical Christians would consider taking one's own life to be murdering one's self.This message has been edited by buzsaw, 10-31-2004 10:43 PM

Since the grave is the end to them, I don't understand why they spend their relatively few moments of existence trying to convince others that they should join their group. Eternity. Mmmm, better get lots of your essential oils such as borage, flax and fish, take your glucosamine with condroiten for the joints, get your vits and minerals, drink lots of fresh raw vegie and fruit juices and leave off the junk food for such aspirations. Seriously, I wish you well and that you live long, happy and blessed! Go with God for ultimate fulfillment in life, though. Relatively speaking, temporal life is as the apostle James says, like the grass that appears for a little while and withers away. Froggie, me friend, you don't understand Holy Ghost conversion atol! The new birth via receiving the spirit of Christ changes one's being so as to make one want to love God and do good to others. See responses to others in regard to this.

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The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buz

Oops, my sincere apologies, B2P. I've been going down the line from top to bottom responding to posts and didn't see this post until now. I shall leave off and let you finish your thread.This message has been edited by buzsaw, 10-31-2004 11:08 PM

Did you see my post #29 yesterday where I apologized? As soon as I read your first request I have not posted since. I had not read that until I had already posted what I did. My last post was when I saw your first request. Check the times time of my posts and you will see this to be the case.