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Author Topic:   Why allow Davison to lie?
Brad McFall
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Message 3 of 28 (156169)
11-05-2004 10:31 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by derwood
11-05-2004 9:06 AM


I dont know if this helps if not please ignore, I mean no bad will.
There IS a difference between the effects of gene expression and the placement chromatin wise of the same. Because Davison had used the term "de-repression" I suspected that he developed some of his thoughts at the time Monod was developing his notion of "physiological time". That was why it took some time before we clearly communicated, as I,BSM, but perhaps not he, DO think that there might be PHYSICAL gene action-at-a-distance. Gladyshev describes something a bit narrowly restricted in this sense, when he talks about effects beyond mere contact with DNA, that reach across scales larger than the nano magnitude; but these are unproven :so: far as I know. I had not said that your thinking was "frightening" but I did judge that it is more about the genes themselves, whether silenced or not (through some kind of operon repression etc OR NOT), and NOT about the EFFECTS AFTER EXPRESSION of the same Heritability which in the cite *were* located near telemeres. I would agree with the admins that "protected" me in that thread and are doing some seperation here that evc can not let a sinlge word (that might be interpreted differently (effect vs effects)) to result) in name calling or admonishment, as was the apol0getic I might have wrote in a departmental setting that EVC is not a faculty of/in/aboard/about/aboveetc, being the NEW ONLINE MEDIUM that (it)isis a bit different when one is posting immediately at the time of one's pen pale or then say out of sync and out of geography with the same. You can note that John did not answer me directly as to my OWN interest to discuss single vs double strands but instead asked,,,, the ancillary absurdity (theater) which is not something prepositionally I am intended to reply or respond to materially.
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Also mooses observation expressed with
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One of Brad's best?
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Name: Brad McFall
Forum: Boot Camp
Thread: A Prescribed Evolutionary Hypothesis (from John A. Davison)
Post #: 3
This seems to be a rare instance of my not being able to follow Brad's reasonings purely because of my very weak biology background.
I look forward to JAD's responce to the above cited.
Moose
{Note: Adminnemooseus's formating tweaks of the cited were quite minor.}
were not directly addressed in the interchange between John and me, Scott, as it never came up if temporality AND utility (not the contradiction I offered as in the prior) were within the time actually.
This message has been edited by Brad McFall, 11-05-2004 10:45 AM

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Brad McFall
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From: Ithaca,NY, USA
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Message 24 of 28 (157903)
11-10-2004 8:44 AM
Reply to: Message 19 by Jazzns
11-09-2004 2:59 PM


Re: Markov JAD
My suspicion has always been that should one attempt to put a computer up against me, that the hardware veener will never be parallel enough to handle my references to orthogonality. Please dont try. I am tired of responding to posts (this happened mostly off EVC) which were likely of this nature only to find that the poster COULD NOT continue to respond to me. Eventually it becomes the computer's "turn" and this the programmer CANT DO because they need input from the poster, me, first. So in a game of fencing as is EVC one can not USE these programs directly+
besides this is a debate forum, so, I cant see how this further's debate, it is only entertaining. It is not entertaining to me however to waste time and I doubt it would be to JAD either. Percy was describing Davison's posts by ANALOGY to such fishy programing.

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Brad McFall
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From: Ithaca,NY, USA
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Message 28 of 28 (158375)
11-11-2004 11:57 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by Jazzns
11-10-2004 9:56 AM


Re: Markov JAD
This was on JAD not BSM.
No, I dont mind seeing that stuff as long as I know that I am not requried/expected/suspected-to respond to, it. That's what the COFFEE HOUSE if for, is it not?
http://http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/forumdisplay.cgi?action=to pics&forum=Coffee+House&number=14&DaysPrune=45&LastLogin=
(Moose what would you like me to do to reduce the size of these links? if any??)

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