The lies behind the Miller experiment

it's not evidence because it didn't work.IT FAILD!You got that for the third time!

Fine, the first miller experiment didn't fail compleatly. Yes it did form some amino acids along with the poisonous tar. If they had used the right atmusphere, it might have proved something. At the time of his experiment, miller was depending upon harold urey's theories about the atmosphere. Though the hydrogen rich enviroment was a commen theory back then, almost no credible scientist today would tell you the atmosphere was like the one that miller used in his chamber. As a geophysicist with the Carnegie Institution said in the 1960's, "What is the evidence for a primitive methane ammonia atmosphere on earth. The answer is that there is no evidence for it, but much against it." Two of the leading origin-of-life researchers in the 1970's, Klaus Dose and Sidney Fox, said that miller used the wrong gas mixture. The first miller experiment proved that in the right man made conditions, a few amino acids can form and float around doing nothing.

Fine, let's say that the miller experiment has nothing to do with evoloution. This doesn't change the fact that it is being used as evidence in school courses. My point remains.

That was my point, it may not have anything to do with evoloution, but IT IS BEING USED AS PROOF OF evolution.

One, the elements in your first experiment were not on earth when it was created. Secondly, you want a brane to form? Just leave your soup out at room temprature for a hour or two, you call that organic?

Yes I did give you the ISBN and the other guy found the book. I'll get others and quote from the one I have when I get the time

To produce amino acids "easier than one thought" was not the purpose of the miller experiment. Second, easier than who thought, and how hard did they think it would be? Miller did think that creating his amino acids (which still had no chance of forming life) would take 6 months to a year, so what?

Oh you didn't? How about reading message 65

A quote on what? I have alredy quoted 2 scientist who both say that the atmosphere on earth at the time of creation was almost deffinitly not the hydrogen rich atmusphere that miller used.

Thank you will you tell the others that

Yes your right you can still get biomolocules, AS I EXPLAINED IN THE TOPIC MESSAGE! I feal like were going in circles here

I didn't say it supported my claimbs, I said that was the book!

I was talking about message 29 where you asked me if this was the book

Just because something is dead doesn't mean it was once alive, is a block of iron alive? I don't think so as it does not fulfill al the requirements for life. Like iron, the amino acids created by the first miller experiment never fulfilled all the requirements of living.