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PaulK
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Message 16 of 94 (157672)
11-09-2004 2:36 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Davidjay
11-09-2004 1:21 PM


Re: Enoch designed the Pyramid
The idea that Isaiah 19:20 refers to the Great Pyramid also has severe problems. Isaiah 19 refers to future events and the Great Pyramid does not follow the rules for building an altar to the Lord nor is it on the border of Egypt so it can't be the pillar either.

As for the "circular circumference" of the antechamber, why would a circle based on the longest measurement of the antechamber be important ? It's awfully arbitrary to suggest that that particular measurement of that chamber is important - especially when it is so roughly worked that the precision of measurement you claim is simply not reliable.


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Message 17 of 94 (157683)
11-09-2004 3:11 PM
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11-09-2004 2:36 PM


Re: Enoch designed the Pyramid
Paul, we mus get beyond the basics to the actual measurements and actual dates, as that is by far the most important, otherwise you never get to the meat and potatos and concentrate on the minors without majoring on the majors. For when you see the overall, then the minor details come into perspective..

Nevertheless let me respond to your minor queries... in (...)

The idea that Isaiah 19:20 refers to the Great Pyramid also has severe problems. (But the Great prophecy remains intact and exact... and so isaiah must be referring to the Lord's pyramid... so Paul study PHI and its realtionships to us and our body, and how New jerusalem is just a minature Giza, one to 10,000 and then these minors disappear in the Grand design.. Consider http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Earthmoonphipyramid.html Notice the corelations with the Lord's Temple) Isaiah 19 refers to future events and the Great Pyramid does not follow the rules for building an altar to the Lord (OPH Yes, SEE Cydonia mound, Glastonbury Height, and Giza's height of 500 feet. It fits all the prerequisites including having the same proportions as the Tabernacle which is Eternal.)nor is it on the border of Egypt so it can't be the pillar either. (The border and midst explanation by others makes perfgect sense on the map and in words as written by others IMO)
As for the "circular circumference" of the antechamber, why would a circle based on the longest measurement of the antechamber be important ? (Because it confirmed Enoch was the designer and so the Lord had a room for him in which to put his signature years. Amazing, as credit to where credit is due is the Lord's principle and so we should also give Him the overall credit for His template of life PHI< and its application in us and His temple. Amen ?) It's awfully arbitrary to suggest that that particular measurement of that chamber is important (not when you understand time and distance and speed are not arbitrary but set by the Lord as boundaries SEE http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/SpeedofLightPhi33andConnections.html but it takes a while to connect up the dots or light rays..) - especially when it is so roughly worked that the precision of measurement you claim is simply not reliable. (The Lord's lengths are amazingly reliable and accurate and usually rounded off and exact whole numbers so us not so brights can figure 'em out and give HIM credit, I reckon.

Thanks Paul..

and on we should be going from the Entranceway down the descending passageway until we start ascending and what distance is that from the entranceway...

You got it exactly at the birth of .......


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Message 18 of 94 (157687)
11-09-2004 3:26 PM
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11-09-2004 3:11 PM


Re: Enoch designed the Pyramid
(OPH Yes, SEE Cydonia mound, Glastonbury Height, and Giza's height of 500 feet.

Cydonia Mound, as in Elvis's Holy Face on Mars? Who measured that as 500 feet tall? And what does The Holy Face of Elvis have to do with this Enoch guy?
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lfen
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Message 19 of 94 (157692)
11-09-2004 3:29 PM
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11-09-2004 2:19 PM


Re: Further Research
You add seven more years and that brings us to the end of 2011 and the Battle of Armeggeddon which is when the Lord returns to the Earth in battle.

So come 2012 and none of this has happened, will you give up dabbling in these delusions?

This pyramind stuff is a scam of bad math and futzing equations, history, whatever it takes to sell lectures, books, whatever.

lfen


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Message 20 of 94 (157702)
11-09-2004 3:47 PM
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11-09-2004 3:11 PM


Re: Enoch designed the Pyramid
Nonsense. If you wish to bring up these measurements as evidence then we certainly must question them.

The relationship of Phi to the body has come up vefore. There is no close relationship = just a very approximate one..

Your "explanation" of Isaiah doesn't make sense. Taken at face value Isaiah says that an altar WILL be built in the "midst" of Egypt and a pillar WILL be built at the border. There is nothing to link either to any building which existed in Isaiah's time.

Now if *I* wanted to encode a precies measurement in a chamber I would not arbitrarily choose a small one. I would certainly not choose one so roughly worked tat it could not be measured to the necessary precision and if I wanted a cirular measurement to be used I would at least lay the room out so that the circle fitted within it. AND I would leave some sort of indication that that measurement was intended to be significant.

As for this claim:

quote:

The Lord's lengths are amazingly reliable and accurate and usually rounded off and exact whole numbers so us not so brights can figure 'em out and give HIM credit, I reckon.

Well if God measured the antechamber for you as you say, then where can I see HIS measurements ? Necause if you are just relying on human measurements like the ones I have seen, I am not about to accept that you have measurements accurate to the 100th of an inch that you need.


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Message 21 of 94 (157957)
11-10-2004 11:14 AM
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11-09-2004 3:26 PM


Re: Enoch designed the Pyramid
Coragyps,

This thread is not for non math types, if you can;t research and measure and do simple math, please reframe from posting literary comments about your unbelief in what you are unwilling to study.

Thanks

But if you have the patience, we can start a different thread on the Cydonia Pyramids and theie altar, and the cheribum face, but until then, that topic will be a distraction to this more IMPORTANT ONE. remember major on the majors and minor on the minors. Once you know the framewrok and design of prophecy, then it might be easier for you to understand Cydonia.


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Message 22 of 94 (157962)
11-10-2004 11:21 AM
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11-09-2004 3:29 PM


Re: Further Research
Ifen,

Please use class and respect on this thread if at all possible, rather than using inflamatory language....such as dabbling, delusions, and scams.

If you can't do the simple math and don't have the concentration span to understand, it definitely explains your first post, but hopefully with time you will use science rather than science fiction and your unfocused mind in responding. When that happens, I and others may try to explain and search for answers from what you say.

But if you want to think your world will last forever and your inner most thought is that you shall live forever without the Lord and irregardless of his prophecy...do think again.

SEE http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Prophecymysteries.html

Now back to the math and see if the numbers and measurements are correct.

For if the Great Pyramid is prophetic it has to be deciphered before the End to make it a witness, because hindsight is not foresight nor propecy.

Surely the Lord God will do nothing except He revealeth His secrets unto His servants the prophets..

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Message 23 of 94 (157963)
11-10-2004 11:22 AM
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11-10-2004 11:14 AM


Support is required
This thread is not for non math types, if you can;t research and measure and do simple math, please reframe from posting literary comments about your unbelief in what you are unwilling to study.

You are required as a condition of free posting to support any assertions you make. If someone asks you for your sources you are expected to follow up.

You are, however, correct that the Cyndonia mound is a separate topic and should not be discussed in this thread.


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Message 24 of 94 (157967)
11-10-2004 11:36 AM
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11-09-2004 3:47 PM


Re: Enoch designed the Pyramid
Surely you jest. ...Paul

You obviously haven't measured your finger digits lately nor the height of your belly button from the floor in regards to youtr total height. Remember you are hardly the ideal, but you should be at least close to perfection and the template the Lord established, otherwise you would be non human. But you are allowed to keep your doubts because you haven;t the time or energy or heart to study yourself or PHI. That's up to you.

My comments to yours in ...(...)

Now if *I* wanted to encode a precies measurement in a chamber I would not arbitrarily choose a small one. (The Lord used the whole pyramid as a witness NOT just a small chamber. Everything about the Pyramid shows the design of the designer. Pray tell now the Earth's diameter was embedded into the sides of the Pyramid. Pray tell why its ratio's match New Jerusalem 1/10,000, and why the ratios match sacred geometry and the diameters of the Earth, Moon in conjunction... Do the math Paul, rather than complaining about numbers and design do the math. Study and use your mind and prove things and the math to yourself. http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/WhomadetheDistances.html )

I would certainly not choose one so roughly worked tat it could not be measured to the necessary precision and if I wanted a cirular measurement to be used I would at least lay the room out so that the circle fitted within it. (The circle fits within it... and the precision of every laid stone is absolutely impossible to be done today, as well as its precise alignment. Paul are you sure you have done any research on the pyramid at all. No building or temple has ever been so precise and mathematically astounding)

AND I would leave some sort of indication that that measurement was intended to be significant. (The Lord said, seek and find, not be lazy and I will spoon fed you. The church method never works in anything in life, you have to knock on the right doors and be open-minded and SEARCH. Sodo the searching Paul, doubts are alright and honourable if you try to answer them, but most doubters are simply lazy and close-minded.) The Lord's lengths are amazingly reliable and accurate and usually rounded off and exact whole numbers so us not so brights can figure 'em out and give HIM credit, I reckon.

Well if God measured the antechamber for you as you say, then where can I see HIS measurements ? Necause if you are just relying on human measurements like the ones I have seen, I am not about to accept that you have measurements accurate to the 100th of an inch that you need.

(Exactly as I will show, as close enough to tango is sufficient for me to start with and the more the pressure together the better the dance, and the music is a playin.... so do the measurements and quite complaining about a tenth of an inch, until we get a goin. besides the written word of prophecy has to agree absolutely and totally with that which is written in stone to be confirmable.)

Now for a rebuttal of the terrible website I found yesterday, and then on down the Descending chamber and see if there are any science, math types on this board, or researchers.


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Message 25 of 94 (157969)
11-10-2004 11:41 AM
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11-10-2004 11:21 AM


Re: Further Research
I'll rephrase my question.

You have made a prediction. Not knowing your age or condition of health I'll assume that there is at least a chance you will be alive some point after the predicted year. If none of the things you have predicted to have happened have happened I'm wondering if you will consider your theory falsified or if you will assume that you just mismeasured some part of the pyramid and adjust your calculations for a later time.

In more general terms, would you state what conditions would falsify the great pyramid as prophecy thesis?

lfen


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Message 26 of 94 (157973)
11-10-2004 11:43 AM
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11-09-2004 2:19 PM


Re: Ben's poor Pyramidology
Alas, I found the American Pyramidology site and saw there correlation to 2004 and thought they might have some correlations with Prophecy.

But sorry, the measurements of the pathways have to be consistent IMO using only ONE scale...one inch equals a year. having three different scales is ludicrous in my opinion. And when they make an articfical passageway, that no one can ascend or descend or measure in real life as the prophecy. That also makes NO SENSE whatsoever.

1844 makes NO sense, and their horrrendous days of the Wrath period are completely with out basis in the Old and new testament propehts.

All prophecies must mesh, as all true prophecies must be fulfilled exactly according to the timelines of the very exact Lord. We just have to be exact... and figure them out, knowing this world is a hell of a mess and getting worse. Thank the Lord.

So forget this hyperlink in my opinion..... http://www.benabraham.com/ but the graphics after the Great Step could be helpful in the future... Nah.. they are past tense, and would be hindsight. What's the point. Hindsight is not foresight and prophecy.

Now to the Flood and the descent downwards before the Ascent upwards..

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Message 27 of 94 (157974)
11-10-2004 11:45 AM
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11-10-2004 11:36 AM


Re: Enoch designed the Pyramid
nor the height of your belly button from the floor in regards to youtr total height.

Some of us here did exactly this a few weeks ago on another Phi-related thread, and got results as much as 10% or so in "error." Do you have a larger, documented database that demonstrates that bellybutton/total heights of humans is near phi? And what digit measurements are you referring to? I'd like to try it on my hands.

And I think I can handle the math, thanks.


El sueño de la razón produce monstruos. - Francisco Goya
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Message 28 of 94 (157978)
11-10-2004 11:47 AM
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Re: Support is required
Exactly Nosy,

Responders and free posters should use math and measurements rather than literary negatives in their posting as well as myself.

Let's do the math and the measuring as that is my point...let's see if my math is right. Let's get down and dirty in the passageways and do the hard work of calculations.


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Message 29 of 94 (157979)
11-10-2004 11:47 AM
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11-10-2004 11:36 AM


Re: Enoch designed the Pyramid
As a "math type" I can assure you that a rectangle cannot contain a circle with a diameter equal to the longest axis. If you think otherwise then you had better explain yourself.

Now how are you going to show that you have the correct measuement of the antechamber to the nearest hundredth of an inch ? Please explain how to deal with the variations caused by the rough finish to show that the measurement you use is THE correct one.


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Message 30 of 94 (157986)
11-10-2004 11:56 AM
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11-10-2004 11:45 AM


Re: Phi Belly buttons.
Yup, done the math on quite a few others... Cor including myself, wife and kids and classes. isn;t it amazing how we all approximate PHI in this division, and what an appropriate location, as it seems to be our center of gravity. But then again, I have never balanced anyone on their belly button or spun them around their COG, although gymnasts and divers and all air borne humans rotate around their center of gravity.

But CY if your body isn't ideal, don't let it get you down. None of us are perfect, that agin is a spiritual truth. Just remember your fingers... and use your power of expansion or phi properly.

You might try seeing the division of the body HERE as it relates directly to the seven divisions up our spinal cord, and then we are into frequencies and much much more. http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/GoldenSectionandyourBody.html But as Nosy has said, that's another topic, and so let's just realise that PHI exists and is exact and is all around us and in us, and is sexual expansion, and is in the macro and micro cosm... and move on to the Math of the Great Pyramid of the LORD. You can come back and do more measurements on your body later, or get others for measuring.


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