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Jazzns
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From: A Better America
Joined: 07-23-2004


Message 19 of 28 (157679)
11-09-2004 2:59 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Percy
11-09-2004 8:05 AM


Markov JAD
I was bored at work so I decided to try to make somewhat of automated JAD. I only used a simplistic Markov chain generator and fed all of JADs posts through it. Here is the results:
Source text: 209756 bytes of text from JAD posts minus salutations, quotes, and short posts with no substantial content.
Output text: < 1500 bytes generated by a 12th order Markov chain.
I presented in any paper of which have been the ensurance of ultimate extinction, thereby allowing evolution today and probably never published has ever been exposed as a total failure by Mivart, Berg, Broom, Bateson, Goldschmidt, Schindewolf.
I see little merit in your post either.
I'm not sure I want to get out of stir. Five months hence maybe like Martha Stewart? I hope I'm not expected to agree with them. You can find one worthy of your undivided attention in this Groupthink that is very much out of date and no longer occurring. If they were they would only read the second installment of my manuscript?
The administrators had warned against that sort of thing in a rational fashion as for example, then I can only conclude that you did not read them. They are both dead wrong. Membership is by invitation only. The notion that Micah Sparacio would even dream of inviting Borger, Engle or myself to rejoin is patently absurd and you know it. "brainstorms" the ISCID forum, where it resulted in a very large number of discrete intermediate species were involved in our evolution are no longer occurring, but that is just the greatest Russian zoologist of his day just as Leo Berg was the greatest paleontology. Gosh, maybe Schindewolf and Bateson both of whom have been dead for a very long time, the only
role for mutation was to ensure extinction thereby paving the way for the next step.
It is all over the world. I don't need my approval do you?
I thought it might be fun to do Brad too but I am too lazy to go collect a big enough sample of his posts to do it. What do you all think?

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Jazzns
Member (Idle past 3932 days)
Posts: 2657
From: A Better America
Joined: 07-23-2004


Message 25 of 28 (157933)
11-10-2004 9:52 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by pink sasquatch
11-09-2004 11:33 PM


Re: Markov JAD
A Markov chain would be insufficient, I think, to use to hold a discussion. It mostly just has humor value. There is no structure to the output since it is all based on the statistical significance of byte ordering up to a certain length of bytes. It is really simple actually and the only reason that the output I posted was even readable at all was because the model order was so high. In fact, when you get the model order that high all it really is is whole sentence fragments that just happen to be statistically compatable. At higher model orders it would start to do paragraph combinations and at even higher order would just start to spew exact copies of the input text.
Here is an example of the same thing at model order 3 instead of 12.
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Which I think is pretty funny in and of itself.

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Jazzns
Member (Idle past 3932 days)
Posts: 2657
From: A Better America
Joined: 07-23-2004


Message 26 of 28 (157937)
11-10-2004 9:56 AM
Reply to: Message 24 by Brad McFall
11-10-2004 8:44 AM


Re: Markov JAD
I totally agree with you Brad. The only purpose of playing with these computer rearangements of human communication is for entertainment value and not for real discussion. Even with more sophisticated models it would be a mere amusing diversion from real discussion. Nevertheless, do you find it entertaining?

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