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Mammuthus
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Message 4 of 28 (156178)
11-05-2004 11:03 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by AdminJar
11-05-2004 9:52 AM


Re: The reason the two of you were seperated
I don't know. JAD is a particularly annoying individual. Having not posted this week almost at all, I have watched pink sasquatch, Wounded King, and mike hager all go through the same series of events. JAD makes his assertions, follows it with about 20 posts mentioning Leo Berg, Grasse and Schwindelhoff, says a couple of times how he is a persecuted heretic or a demented idiot (his own words or a paraphrasing of his self deprecation), and then threatens to leave. Whenever anyone asks him to elaborate, support his assertions, or even responds to his posts (except for Brad), JAD launches into a diatribe and then the series of posts repeats themselves. No matter how politely, neutrally, aggresively one approaches JAD, the same result is always observed. Go to the archives from a year ago when JAD posted as salty and you will see an almost identical clone of his Boot Camp threads...the only difference is that some of the evolution side memmbers are different. The only variation in JADs pattern are his
references to Scott Page. He does this often enough I have to wonder if JAD has a crush on the guy. Now he is into mis-representing what other people say and then arguing about their mis-representation. The guy is in a total mental rut. Boot camp is a nice place for him and only a slightly amusing place to visit for others.

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Mammuthus
Member (Idle past 6497 days)
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From: Munich, Germany
Joined: 08-09-2002


Message 8 of 28 (157262)
11-08-2004 11:24 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by Percy
11-08-2004 11:12 AM


Re: are you now going to separate PS and JAD? Mam and JAD? Hambre and JAD?
Ironically, JAD managed by accident to stumble into the subject of Daphnia genetics which is itself really interesting though horrible complicated. JAD of course made no contribution to the discussion but perhaps the Boot Camp will be a source of future topics? Having seen pink sasquatch and mike hager both now fall victim to JADs dementia, I think he is a hopeless case and he pisses me off too much by ignoring my evidence without supplying any of his own. But if a new topic can be made out of the forum (maybe my next Contribution ) then it will have been worth it.

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Mammuthus
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Message 11 of 28 (157565)
11-09-2004 6:46 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by pink sasquatch
11-08-2004 3:46 PM


Re: are you now going to separate PS and JAD? Mam and JAD? Hambre and JAD?
You did a great job of staying cool with JAD....way better than I did
After seeing how pointless it is to talk to that lunatic, one thing is clear, he has a completely overinflated ego. I think the worst thing that can happen to him in a forum like this is to be completely ignored. The scientific community will certainly ignore his ahem.. publications since even when he does propose a testable hypothesis, it has been falsified i.e. Daphnia F1 production. Since from your last post in Boot Camp, SLPx ban from Boot Camp, and my refraining from posting there...lets see if JAD throws a temper tantrum when he is ignored

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Mammuthus
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Message 12 of 28 (157566)
11-09-2004 6:47 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by pink sasquatch
11-08-2004 3:46 PM


Re: are you now going to separate PS and JAD? Mam and JAD? Hambre and JAD?
You did a great job of staying cool with JAD....way better than I did
After seeing how pointless it is to talk to that lunatic, one thing is clear, he has a completely overinflated ego. I think the worst thing that can happen to him in a forum like this is to be completely ignored. The scientific community will certainly ignore his ahem.. publications since even when he does propose a testable hypothesis, it has been falsified i.e. Daphnia F1 production. Since from your last post in Boot Camp, SLPx ban from Boot Camp, and my refraining from posting there it looks like he lacks for sparring partners...lets see if JAD throws a temper tantrum when he is ignored

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Mammuthus
Member (Idle past 6497 days)
Posts: 3085
From: Munich, Germany
Joined: 08-09-2002


Message 14 of 28 (157575)
11-09-2004 8:35 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by Percy
11-09-2004 8:05 AM


Re: Percy's testable hypothesis
quote:
So JAD does the same thing that the many conversation programs available on the web do - they attempt to mimic understanding while comprehending nothing.
You do realize of course you could test this? Take any series of posts of similar length to JAD's from another EvC member. Have Babelfish or whatever program translate them into French, then German, then back to English and see if you can re-create JADs posts. If you translate into French, you may even get references to Grasse back.
Here is the results of my attempt by translating my own post back and forth
They state that naturally you could examine this? Take to n'importe, that the number of the post length similarly JAD's d'un another member d'EvC. Have Babelfish, or any program translates them into Frenchmen, on the other hand with l'anglais and sees whether you can again provide posts of JADs. If you translate into Frenchmen, you can even recover referring to Grasse.

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Mammuthus
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From: Munich, Germany
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Message 22 of 28 (157837)
11-10-2004 3:42 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by pink sasquatch
11-09-2004 11:53 PM


Re: are you now going to separate PS and JAD? Mam and JAD? Hambre and JAD?
quote:
If you are ever bored enough to check out his UVM website, you'll find an essay prominently displayed where he recasts UVM and its leadership in terms of the novel "1984". Apparently he's been made an "unperson" by speaking out against "groupthink" (they cancelled his classes where he began teaching his hypothesis). He revels in the hole he has dug for himself.
Hi pink sasquatch,
I visited his website a few times to attempt to argue portions of his Manifesto...sometimes I get the impression he has not read his own papers either. His website is very amusing. Especially his desire to run for governor of Vermont. I also thought of digging up his Science papers but I don't have access to the journal that far back. But I don't think you will find much genetics. He was a physiologist.
I can't recall if you overlapped with Stephen ben Yeshua or not but he was another example of a professor (ecologist in Stephen's case) who was fairly well published, around the late 60's completely disappeared from academia and then returned in the last 10 years as a completely whacked out creationist. He claimed Baysian statistics proved things like bible codes and raised the likelihood of the existence of the biblical god. He also claimed that farts where evidence of demonic posession. Like JAD, he revelled in the martyr role he believed he was cast in.
I really wonder what happened to both of these guys in the late 60's.
As you noted, as badly as the discussion with JAD went, I learned a bit to i.e. Daphnia genetics...so it was not all bad.

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Mammuthus
Member (Idle past 6497 days)
Posts: 3085
From: Munich, Germany
Joined: 08-09-2002


Message 27 of 28 (158317)
11-11-2004 7:58 AM
Reply to: Message 23 by pink sasquatch
11-10-2004 4:12 AM


Sooner than I thought
In the introducing Boot Camp forum, JAD is already starting to chaffe now that nobody is responding to him in the Perturbed Egotistical Trash ...the squealing has begun

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