Do read the Book of Enoch, and do understand that the Earth circles the SUN in 365.24 days mor3e or less.
Why is that so important to you all. Let's talk about pyramidology.
Let's not strain at a gnat and swallow a camel.
Percy in response....(...)
So we need to establish whether you're actually making this claim or not. (Yes I calim that the Earth revolves around the SUN... let's move on, and let's get back to my or your search to see if the Great Pyramid is prophetic and fits the major historic events of TRUE HISTORY. Don't get so easily sidetracked... SEE all the new diagrams and postings so you can follow the passageways.... Don't get hung up in the ANTE Room..... )
It sounds like you're dropping your claim that the measurement has astronomical significance, (??????? Enoch lived 365 years, confiormation enough for me, that is 365 revolutions around the Sun of a 365.24 day revolution path. This pathway apparrently hasn;t changed much except maybe when Joshia asked the Lord to stop the movement of the SUN. But let's move on, to the major about the GP being prophetic) and that now you're only noting the correspondence to Enoch's age at death. Do I have this right? (Actually Enoch didn;t die, and designed the Pyramid after his departure. Read genesis)
Now that we know more precisely what you're claiming, (NO I'm exploring the great possibility that the GP is prophetic, and you are stuck inthe Ante Room... Onward Christian soldiers..) the important question is why you read any significance into the fact that when multipied by pi one of the dimensions of one of the structures of the Great Pyramid in inches is equal to the length of Enoch's life in years? (PLease expand on this.. Thanks. Now you have have an important confirmation or addition if you add explanations graphics etc..)
PS - When you reply to yourself it is difficult for people to tell who you're really replying to.
(I was taking you up the passageway, step by step, as I was doing the research, in my opinion..Therefore hitting the reply button to myself. I like progress and hate wasting time and so put forth opinions, and numbers and math, and years, to see if it makes sense and is mathematicalical and fits in with scriptures. Onward Christian soldiers.... Amen ?)
Can you confirm that Enoch never existed or did NOT build the Great Pyramid. Can you confirm that all the amzing exact mathematical and design and construction feats of the G.P., were all by accident or merely done by a bunch of labourers?
You can however say you don;t know. That I believe, but you can NOT claim that because you don;t know, that no one else can know, only that you don;t know. Remember you have to prove things to yourself. That's your job.
So here's the posting Enoch designed the G.P. I just composed it four days ago, and have found many more confirmations in the last few days... so onward Christian soldiers, as we measure the passage ways and confirm the Lord's Prophecy.
For surely the Lord God will do nothing except He revealeth His secrets unto His servants the prophets..... BEFORE THEY happen.
As for the sacred inch, try measuring your second digit, 1 ... the tip being .618 of 1 and so forth. My span is 9", and my elbow length is a cubit, my generatives at 3' or 2 cubits, my pineal third eye at 6' or 4 cubits, navel at exactly .618 of total, heart at 5'. if I remember right. Isn't the human body amazing.. YES it had to be the Lord, even though Enoch has been given credit for the inch measure in some writings. But do the search yourself... and prove it for yourself ... http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Proveit.html
This message has been edited by Davidjay, 11-13-2004 12:43 PM
This message has been edited by Davidjay, 11-13-2004 12:45 PM
One minute you complain about me not being specific and giving details, and when I do you complain that I ask you to figure out whether these detaisl are true according to your own measurements. and research.
I said I would logically and mathematically complete the passageway journey to show Prophecy, and I have been doing that step by step, to confirm points of alignment.
Today I shall post, the missing steps so that it is complete in my opinion. Make your own and prove things yourself from personal study. I can;t do that for you. Each must use their God given brains as that is part of the FIRST COMMANDMENT. Right ? Study to show thyself approved ? Remember those scriptures. Everyone has to study and do their part. Real teachers don;t spoon fed their students, as in rote learning, they each have to ask and answer questions themselves Right ?
No, never got into that, but it would be interesting. It is not the basis for my timeline at all, but because of the polar shift and the Christos Angle, the Dividing of the Earth in the Days of Peleg, I would be intresting in persuing that land mass if you or any can show it is of absolute importance.
I have read that there was only one land mass originally..which makes complete sense, and then it was split apart just as the Lord split apart the languages at the time of Babel and at the time of peleg. So maybe that's the solution, but I haven;t got into that yet. Let me know what you figure out ?
David and Trixie (as my wife's pen name is trixie as well, she's truly an angelic sprite and more)
I just wrote this, this morning, because of my recent arrival here at evc, so do correct my math or additions or multiplication or give your own measurements and historical corrections or confirmations.. It's just a rough draft, as I do like to make progress, and connect up loose ends if possible, because a principle of the Lord is that He has to reveal His mysteries, and He is exact and mathematical according to His Creation and creations. Anyway Here it tis. Hopefully mathematical responses will follow, rather than others... I'll put in more hypers and graphics as I compose them, or recompose them, until we get it right or close enough to tango.
Altar Stone to Kingís Chamber
1674 A.D. to 2004 A.D.
To reach the climax and the end of our journey down and then up the Great Pyramid through its passageways and steps, we shall have to have taken the Great Leap of Faith in believing onto the Altar Stone.
So letís calculate the time until the END if in fact an inch does correlate to one year, just as in all the other calculations in our spiritual journey and Manís History. Well we established that the Great Step to its base was in the year 1614, but thatís not to the vertical apex 36 inches above. Because at that height, the distance from the start of the Grand gallery to its Altar Stone Step height is 91.36 cubits. (SEE http://repertorium.net/rostau/measures.html ) Converting this into inches, we get 91.36 x 18 = 1644 years. Therefore letís now add this to the time when Jesus died, at 30 A.D. and we have 1644 + 30 = 1674 A.D. as the start of the horizontal clear passageway onto the Kingís Chamber.
But how far is it to the entranceway of the King of Kings Chamber ? According to htt://www.benabraham.com and other sites, its 113 inches to the Ante Room, 116 inches across the Ante Room, and then 101 inches to the Entranceway of the Kings Chamber. Add these up and you get 113 + 116 + 101 = 330. Letís convert this to years making this time frame Ö. 330 years. And amazingly this correlates directly to the Music of the Pyramid, as 3 times 110 hertz is 330. Because 110 hertz is the resonance frequency for Granite and the Pyramid ( SEE 29 Steps).
But prophecy wise, if we add 330 years to 1674 A.D. we get 2004 A.D. This year !!! So does this mean we have just entered into the Kingís Chamber in time.
Well, there still exists a mystery because Enoch said very specifically that there would be 7,000 years until New Heaven and New Earth, arrived, and it would be 1,000 years after the start of the Lordís Millennium. And if we add 6,000 years to 4004 B.C. the time of Creation, then apparently our 6,000 yearís of manís rule ended in 1997 A.D. (SEE 1,000 Year divisions and 6,000 Years of World History)
We are 7 years past that time, and we still have 7 more years to go before the End according to the very specific and exact timeframe of Daniel and John the revelator and all the Lordís Prophets. (SEE Daniel and Revelation timeline)
So there is a difference of 7 inches or years in the Descent and Ascent of the passageways to the Kings Chamber. For instead of being 6000 inches exactly, it seems to be 6007 inches. Does this make sense, Well in True Church History, Jacob who became Israel had to serve Laban 7 years for Leah, and then 7 more years for the bride he truly lovedÖRachel. (Genesis) So thereís where the additional 7 years to 2004 comes in and the 7 more years of additional service in the world to find the true lovers and bride of the bridegroom. This being our job and ministry from here to the EndÖ.. Find the Lost Sheep and the Bride of Christ ( SEE Bride of Christ in O.T.) to present to Him at His Coming. ( SEE confirmations in the Christ Triangle, Additional 14 Years ).
Do you love the Lord of Lords ? Are you part of His Bride ? Are you ready for His Coming ? Itís NOT now, but there isnít long to wait, as in 3 and a half years, when the tribulation starts, the lines will have been drawn and the seals and marks distributed. Whose side are you on ?
Please correct or confirm, so we can get this right by responding on-line or write Davidjayjordan@yahoo.com
This message has been edited by Davidjay, 11-13-2004 01:01 PM
I just wrote this , this morning, so do correct my math or additions or multiplication or give your own measurements and historical corrections or confirmations.. It's just a rough draft, as I do like to make progress, and connect up loose ends if possible, because a principle of the Lord is that He has to reveal His mysteries, and He is exact and mathematical according to His Creation and creations. Anyway Here it tis. Hopefully mathematical responses will follow, rather than others...
Flood til the Crucifixion
2348 B.C. to 30.A.D.
Thereís a mystery hidden between the timing of the Flood and the timing of the Messiah, when it comes to the Great Pyramid Prophecy. From history we have established that the worldwide Flood of Noah happened in 2348 B.C. and the Messiah was crucified in 30 A.D. Matter of fact this last date was exactly predicted by the prophet Daniel, who stated that 69 weeks (or 7 times 69 years) would take place between the efforts to rebuild the Temple until the Messiah (SEE Timeline Prophecy). Hence we know the Lord sometimes uses mathematical prophecy to declare His Coming including the signs in the astronomical sky (SEE Messianic Story written in the Stars). And yet the Great Pyramid isnít that straight forward when it comes to His Timing.
Yes, His exact life story is written in the ĎChrist Triangleí from 4 B.C. to 30 A.D. covering His 33.512 years here on Earth and correlates exactly to the Queens Chamber. But to transverse from 4004 B.C. to 4 B.C. or 2/3rds of the Worldís 6,000 Year History (SEE 1000 Year Divisions and 6000 Years of History) seems only to be exact in the pyramidology scale of one inch equals one year, if the Ascending Passageway is extended by an imaginary line to an extension of the slope line of the Great Pyramid. This (apparently) equaling approximately 3999.999 inches or 4,000 years, according to earlier pyramidologists. (SEE web Graphics at http://bahaullah.net/pyramid/Date_for_Adam/date_foradam.htm)
But what about a direct correlation, as if we personally were transversing the passageways from the Entrance down the Descending Passage way, and then upwards up the Ascending Passageway until we reached the victory of the Cross.
Well, as we found out the Descending Passageway has a distance of 1536 inches and translates into 1536 years. Add this onto 4004 B.C. and we get 2468 A.D. This I have said was the timing that the fallen Angels mated with the daughters of men. Add 20 years until Noah was told to build His ARK and 120 Years until the Flood started, and you have the Flood arriving in 2348 B.C. (SEE Entrance to the Pit).
But the Ascending Passageway to Jesus death and Resurrection is ONLY 75.02 cubits This translates into 112í or 1350 inches, meaning 1350 years more until the Resurrection unless we are missing something. Why because Jesus didnít die 1350 years after 2348. B.C. But maybe that measurement was inaccurate not including the time in building the ARK of 120 years or 10 feet, because of the transition from Descending to Ascending Convergence. And if using this figure of 1470 inches, from Flood to Resurrection. And multiply it by PHI (1.618) or the Golden Section, which is the very template of the Great Pyramid and the source of power and magnification (SEE Golden Section) then 1470 x 1.618 = 2378. And if this is converted into inches then it becomes 2378 years until the Resurrection. And Lo and Behold 2378 years after the
Smaller is to the larger what the larger is to the wholeÖ. 1470 being the larger, and the whole being 2378. This 2378 years being added to 2348 B.C (Flood) and we get 30 A.D., the timing of the Lordís victorious death. Coincidence, I think not..
A Phi expansion, exists in my opinion up the Ascending Passageway until the greatest event of ALL History, the death that conquered ALL DESCENT and can elevate us to the Stars. (SEE Phi projection to the Stars) via His Salvation.
I put this on-line to make it clearer, even though it is still missing a few graphics and few more hypers. Oh well maybe Monday, SEE you all then, and I do appreciate your efforts to make me complete this.. Thanks
If you see mathematical errors within a few years or inches or feet or cubits etc. do mention it.. Let's get this right in co-operation.
I have answered all questions, even though some are still on Enoch's Circle and LLM coordinates that have nothing to do with the full GREAT PYRAMID PROPHECY.
I now have composed the whole timeline, as Nosy wanted .... to explain the whole passageway theory, that culminates in the 2nd Coming of Christ, giving the hyperlinks and graphics as they are made, and you suggest I have broken the rules of the Forum in explaining in complete detail. Surely you jest..Percy.
Why are you so opposed to study and measurements and logic and graphics for explanation.
Anyway, I shall continue to explain, as my opening postying was hardly a full explanation, as I wanted us to go mathematically through the passageways of the Great Pyramid as well as through history.
If I stayed at the entranceway, where most seem to have been leary to enter IN, no progress would have been made.
So rather than complaining about my progress, why not just counter my measurements or historic dates with your own measurements and how you think 'pyramidology' is prophetic.
Thanks hoping you start your measuring..
This message has been edited by Davidjay, 11-15-2004 01:05 PM
My topic was pyramidology, an inch equals one year and the corelations with Bible Prophecy and real history.
Heaven and any one who can read, can see that I have painstakingly detailed every inch from the entranceway to the Kings Chamber in specific inches, and given the graphics to make it easier to understand, and yet some are still hung up in the Ante Room haven't started thru the passageways, so be it.
I prefer people that write in terms of measurements and history. I should re4post my original posting once again, as I mentioned very specifically thast I was asking for math and measurements, rather than side trips. OH Well
So we have to give them a chance, and not be to hard on them Loud mouth. In time they might start majoring on the major rather than on the minors. But for now let's give them the benefit of the doubt.... and see if they have taken any measurements or have any timelines or prophecy, or if they were just too busy to do the measuring.
Good one Loud mouth.
IE The proof is in the measuring. Not in linguistics Amen ?
This message has been edited by Davidjay, 11-15-2004 04:13 PM
And although you haven;t started the measuring of passageways, Percy I have included the overview as directed by NOSY.
Each segment of the passageway has a number and numbers 1-5 add up to 6007...
Pity you didn't get in on the measuring, and part of the solution. Otherwise you know what they say ....
And YES do post make a NEW Thread about Enoch's Circle, I'd love to hear your positive or negative opinions on another thread. You posted his Circle Graphics, and that's all I can find out about His Circle.
But I do want to start a thread concerning the Tabernacle of the Sun, so if you get mathematically inclined and into measuring distances and speeds, and time, then do post on that thread if it is allowed. OPtherwise, I shall go to other dis. boards.
But thanks all for compelling me to go further into the passageways tro see if the Great Pyramid is in fact prophetic and make me make simple graphics for those who can't do the research for themselves. And I do agree now. Much appreciated.
Have you got any measurements Percy, actually I think you are about a week behind
This message has been edited by Davidjay, 11-15-2004 04:42 PM
I posted you and it didn;t go thru and was quite long. Oh well one more try, as scriputrially I am told to try an answer him that asketh if it is a sincere question...
My comments in ...(..)
I'm just a bit curious. First, What do you mean exactly by "your span"? (Measure from thumb to middle finger when extended.) Second, what are "generatives"? (Ha, that meant generative organs, but seeing sexuality might be a sensitive issue here, I used a more delicate word. Generative organs do the generation and m,ultiplication the Lord told us to do originally, which gives us the expansion of populations at PHI levels)
Third, how did you manage to make a measurement from the ground I assume to your pineal eye? (ASpproximately just above your eye brow level, or if you want to be more specific 1.618 of 29.034 of your total height. That's the way the good Lord created us. The ancient Jews called this the plane of reflection or seat of the soul, because it is here we have our spiritual receptivity and transmission. http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/GoldenSectionandyourBody.html )) Do you even know where your pineal "eye" is located? If so, how then did you obtain this measurement? (Tape measure, my wife helped me and she KNOWS exactly how long I am, if you know what I mean biblically speaking)
And forth, you say your heart is at 5 feet. To which region of your heart are you measuring? (To approximately the middle. I don;t strain at gnats... Where's your heart ?) I don't know about your heart, by my own heart is not just a pin point structure located some arbitrary distance up from the ground. (Arbitrary ???? in your opinion) Are you measuring to a specific structure....like say the SA node, or the aortic semi-lunar valve? What region/structure of your heart is five feet from up from the ground? (Where it beats ) What if I have lordosis or scoliosis? Do you see what I'm getting at? (Gnats YES) If you're going to make some sort of statement based on pretty precise measurements, (PHI is precise, my body is not perfect as far as I know, only MADE in His Image as you should know) then you also need to specify how you obtain these measurements. (Good old tape measure.. So having answered your queries, Fly, how far above the ground is your belly button, for if you get some experience in measuring, you can establish the phi ratios in your body, but if you think you are just an arbitrary unproportioned **** Oh well, I can;t open you up to the beauty of PHI Consider http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Whatisbeauty.html
This post isn;t as good or nearly as long as my first attempt, but at least I answered you. Waiting to hear your measurements ?
In a true debate, both sides have to do research and have some sort of answers and findings to back their lingo.
Each side asks questions of the other.
But the old Jewish method of saying WHY, WHY, WHY, onto Eternity doesn 't really answer any question. Nor does the Prove it,prove it, prove it repetition work when the questioners will not make any effort to prove anything or search anything or measure anything.
I, I think I, shall have to repost my original posting, asking for mathematics and logic and history in responses rather than the literrary feedback and why's and prove its I am getting.