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Author Topic:   Evolutionist view of creationism HELP ME
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08-29-2002 4:22 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Penders
07-25-2002 9:48 AM


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1. What is the worth of the creationist theory (bible - genesis) to you?
There may be some merit to the text as a myth. Archeologists and anthropologists have discovered that some myths are based on actual places or events. Maybe Troy was the first example. I believe there is on-going research to find some of the towns mentioned in the Old Testament. Since the Genesis text of the bible is so sparse compared to actual record of discovery, it may be more useful to compare creation myths among pre-history populations to discover migratory paths.
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2. How do you view the modern day tendency towards accepting evolution as a fact?
Actually the world around us is measured in shades of gray, meaning there is no black or white, absolute fact or total fiction. Evolution is an ever more compelling explanation of what we can see, touch, and understand. The older I get, the more complete and fulfilling its picture.
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3. What was the key point in your life, that made you choose for the evolutionist point of view? (Or did you never even consider creationism?)
I was the kid who took an enduring interest in how things worked around me. How things work has always fascinated me. For me, there were no preconceived notions; I started with a blank slate and assembled a world-view based on what there was to discover around me. So, there was no such point. It simply was ever more relevant that the facts and phenomena I discovered integrated to evolution. They did before. They do so now so fast it is hard to keep track. Personally, I have been unable to discover a second phenomenon that could explain what what can be measured better than generalized evolution.
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4. How do you cope with the fact that evolutionary biology and other sciences have not (yet) provided the answer for the ultimate origin (of mass / of life / of consiousness)?
"Cope" is the wrong word. The best way to describe my approach is that I am too busy adapting to the new discoveries across science, being utterly amazed at what people can do or find out, and connecting the dots as I envision new relationships. This is very positive, gregarious, and uplifting. Over my lifetime, the trend of scientific discovery has continuously accelerated. That in itself is amazing. I am old enough to now understand that science is filling in the everyday gaps across the board in every catagory. Science allows humanity to grow and improve, so that there are new everyday questions. They will be addressed in time. Science will be the key to human evolutionary success from now on.
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5. Do you accept the teaching of the creationist point of view in schools?
Most emphatically not. My kids are grown, but learning creationism would not help them understand the world around them. For them to survive and prosper, they need to understand the world around them. However, learning creation myths in general would be elucidating.
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6. Feel free to comment on any critical subjects.
There are no critical subjects relevant to the EVC discussion because there are no critical creationist arguments. None from the group argue from the Biblical perspective. Importantly, they do not seem to consider the biblical text authoritative. This is understandable because the biblical text is so sparse compared to the actual record. So, all of the creationists in this open forum try to do what scientists do, pick apart scientific scenarios and argumnets. Were they true to their faith, they would not use the scientific approach to try to disprove scientific principles. They would research their body of literature, the Bible, and argue from it.
Wait, I just thought of something. Components of Christianity exhibit a perverse need to compete with technology. In Christian regions in the past, science was suppressed and religion kept control of knowledge from lay people. Those religious people had no tools to protect those they controlled from plagues and other natural phenomena. Science is the answer. Religion should evolve an understanding of why it is irrelevant to the technology business. What we all need from religion is a strong philosophical foundation. Morality, integrity, and community are universal fundamentals we must share that do not require mystical beings.

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