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sidelined
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Message 46 of 59 (161849)
11-20-2004 2:31 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by TheClashFan
11-20-2004 1:39 PM


TheClashFan
I know that I shouldn't be saying this, but I belive whales to have a different kind of intelligence similar to humans, as well as elephants and primates
Would you care to elaborate on this?

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Message 47 of 59 (161853)
11-20-2004 2:35 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by TheClashFan
11-20-2004 2:04 PM


Not so fast!
Don't accept too much too quickly. Turn it over in your head a lot. Think about it a lot: can you find something that feels wrong or doesn't make sense to you? Decide, for yourself, why you will tentatively accept something as reasonable to take as right.

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jar
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Message 48 of 59 (161865)
11-20-2004 3:11 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by TheClashFan
11-20-2004 2:04 PM


Don't rush it and...
don't assume that once you change your mind it will stay changed. Life's like that. In the ninth grade I wrote a briliant paper proving that GOD did not exist. Unfortunately, in the tenth grade I was asked to write a briliant paper defending my position.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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TheClashFan
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Message 49 of 59 (161928)
11-20-2004 6:55 PM
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11-20-2004 2:31 PM


Well, whale songs change. Elephants cry when one of their number dies, and when they come across the place or body of the lost member, they morn. Some types of primates morn for their dead also. Some mothers will carry around their dead infants for weeks, trying to feed and take care of it until it is too deformed to continue pretending.

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TheClashFan
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Message 50 of 59 (161932)
11-20-2004 6:57 PM
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11-20-2004 3:11 PM


Re: Don't rush it and...
I understand that my ideas and opinions will change many, many times before I even become an adult.

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mark24
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Message 51 of 59 (161934)
11-20-2004 6:59 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by TheClashFan
11-20-2004 6:55 PM


TheClashFan,
Well, whale songs change. Elephants cry when one of their number dies, and when they come across the place or body of the lost member, they morn. Some types of primates morn for their dead also. Some mothers will carry around their dead infants for weeks, trying to feed and take care of it until it is too deformed to continue pretending.
But do they fuck nuns, & later join the church?
Mark

There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those that understand binary, & those that don't

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TheClashFan
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Message 52 of 59 (161940)
11-20-2004 7:31 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by mark24
11-20-2004 6:59 PM


Clever.

Better to be silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and prove it.

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gman
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Message 53 of 59 (162403)
11-22-2004 4:25 PM


In a couple thousand generations from now, would you expect that humanity as we know it will no longer exist, because all of us would be some kind of mutant branching off from what we are now?

  
MrHambre
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Message 54 of 59 (162407)
11-22-2004 4:33 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by mark24
11-20-2004 6:59 PM


It's Been Tested By Research
Damn! Beat me to that one. I'd stay and be a tourist, but I can't take the gunplay.
Esteban Hambre

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Message 55 of 59 (162423)
11-22-2004 6:35 PM
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11-20-2004 6:59 PM


Exercise in bad taste???
Do we at all need messages like that? I don't think so.
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mark24
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Message 56 of 59 (162517)
11-23-2004 3:56 AM
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11-22-2004 6:35 PM


Re: Exercise in bad taste???
Moose,
It's just some Clash lyrics, TheClashFan knows this. There's no offense, unless were getting snooty at some rude words.
Mark

There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those that understand binary, & those that don't

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contracycle
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Message 57 of 59 (162539)
11-23-2004 5:18 AM


some context:
Every cheap hood strikes a bargain with the world
And ends up making payments on a sofa or a girl
Love 'n' hate tattooed across the knuckles of his hands
The hands that slap his kids around 'cause they don't understand
How death or glory becomes just another story
How death or glory becomes just another story
'N' every gimmick hungry yob digging gold from rock 'n' roll
Grabs the mike to tell us he'll die before he's sold
But i believe in this - and it's been tested by research
That he who fucks nuns will later join the church
From every dingy basement on every dingy street
I hear every dragging handclap over every dragging beat
That's just the beat of time - the beat that must go on
If you been trying for years - then we already heard your song
- Death Or Glory
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contracycle
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Message 58 of 59 (162543)
11-23-2004 5:22 AM


Incidentally, I tentatively agree with ClashFan that elephants and whales probably have very similar subjective experiences of consciousness as humans. I recognises this unprovable at present, but as I see it is is a more reasonable view than the idea that human consciousness is quantitatively or qualitatively unique.
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contracycle
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Message 59 of 59 (162545)
11-23-2004 5:26 AM
Reply to: Message 41 by nator
11-20-2004 2:01 PM


quote:
But my cats kill for fun. Wasn't your point that they had LOST their instincts? Wasn't your point also that animals don't kill without a reason?
They kill to stay in practice, which they experience as fun. That is a reason.

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