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Manywaystohelppeople 
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Message 41 of 80 (162574)
11-23-2004 7:43 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by sidelined
11-23-2004 7:00 AM


In any arguement the burden of proof is on the one who makes a claim.
And both theists and atheists make claims.......theists claim God exists, atheists claim he doesn't.
If such self evidence existed the arguement would be easily defended.
What do you mean "if"? Years of propoganda has gotten people to forget the obvious. I've never witnessed a machine BUILD itself......I've never seen a book WRITE itself.......so when I learn that even complex single-celled creature is more complex than the most complex machine, and that there was and is more genetic information exchanged in my body than any library could hold, it's self-evident that life was designed.
And, in light of such self-evidence, you have to make an AIRTIGHT argument to the contrary to get any logical person to believe otherwise. And it is now almost universally accepted that this is impossible to do.
As for societies and atheism the opinion of the majority chasing comforting wishes does not make the wishes real.
This is Eurocentric thinking. The vast majority of religions in world history didn't offer comfort.
Social novelties evolved the same way biological ones do........that is, they start in simple form, and get more complex. For instance, the roll of marriage in society today is complex, but anthropologists believe that it's original roll was simply to define the parentage of children. Further conventions became attatched to marriage later, but that's not how they originated. Likewise, the most basic purpose for religion was to explain where everything came from and how it sustains itself (which is why atheism is also a religion, BTW). Conventions such as comforting concepts came later.
And all of human culture has unanimously found it self-evident that all things were created and are sustained by said creator/s.
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Manywaystohelppeople 
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Message 42 of 80 (162576)
11-23-2004 7:51 AM
Reply to: Message 39 by AdminJazzlover
11-23-2004 7:34 AM


Re: Holding atoms together
Youv've been banned before for posts like the one you just did. If you have something to say, say it and back it up with info and/or evidence and stop the personal attacks.
What personal attacks did I make in that post?
Almost all your posts have violated forum guidelines and when noticed of it you get unreasonable and start with the personal attacks again.
The only one making personal attacks and unsupported statements here (like the above) is you......

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