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John Inactive Member |
quote: I don't think that 'unproven' means 'doesn't exist' I just want evidence for is said to exist. ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com
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John Inactive Member |
quote: Sometimes.
quote: I don't think anyone really does. What people like me ask is that claims of the supernatural be proven.
quote: No, the possibility is not allowed into the logic. This is not the same thing. Once some one comes up with data, then the supernatural can be used. This is the point. The supernatural == no data.
quote: I am perfectly ok with this, but you can't use 'it might one day be proven' in an argument formulated before that day comes.
quote: Defining does not make it so. Skipping a bunch of sermon-y stuff.
quote: Show me a creator and I'll believe him, but I hope he's a her.
quote: hmmm..... More sermon-y stuff. ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com
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John Inactive Member |
quote: Strange but true, though admittedly, my Hebrew is poor.
[quote]because if you did read the bible,,you would have read the passage where Jesus refers to God as : My Father..now if your mind is in working order...the word father is of the male side of the sexes.[/b][/quote] You just don't get it. Until you or someone else can show me why I should believe Biblical mythology over another mythology, I DO NOT CARE WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS!
quote: I respond with precisely the seriousness required and always in dead ernest.
quote: You have only to provide evidence for your position. Telling me to 'open my mind and just believe' doesn't stand to any kind of reason at all. This is the same line used by countless charlatans throughout history.
quote: You have no idea how much looking I have done. And I am getting very irritated with assumptions about my person.
[quote][b]i do believe i will go to another post, some where there is a place were i can get a solid and adult type of reasoning conversation...[/quote] [/b] Read your own replies to me. All I see is you telling me that I am wrong and you are right. I need to open my mind and just believe. This is hardly adult reasoning.
quote: What arrogance to assume to know my thoughts! Basically I disagree and you have no rational response.
quote: Ah yes, that is what you meant by adult! Now I understand. ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com
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John Inactive Member |
quote: Did you happen to notice that this is a discussion forum?
quote: I'm not. Where is the proof for the rest of us?
quote: I can answer your fears too, just give me a list. L Ron Hubbard can do the same, so can Confusius, and Buddhism, and Islam, and Shaolin, and etc. Why do you not believe them?
quote: Ever notice that you can convince a child af pretty much anything? This is why we have age of consent laws and such like. Your argument is ridiculous.
quote: Nope, pick apart a book of fairy tales perhaps....
quote: Patently not true. The Rig Vedas are older. So are the mythos of Babylon, Sumeria and Egypt actually.
quote: Which tale is pretty much the same as the tales told by the Sumerians, Egyptians, Babylonians....
quote: Better than a god who buried an extensive fossil record to trick us wouldn't you say?
quote: Again, patently not true. Darwins daughter debunked this lie. The lady Hope, wife of James Hope, claimed to have heard these last words. She wasn't there!!!!! Doesn't it bother you to pass along lies and fabrication as truth?
quote: 'k
quote: Doesn't this mean that you can't wait for someone to agree with you? This is a very childish attitude. I, personally, can't wait for someone to disagree with me. I learn more that way. But you aren't here to try to learn anything. You've made that clear.
quote: And a LOT easier than English. Give it a try. How can you know the history of the KJB and still read it? Oh wait, I bet you don't know the history of the KJB!
quote: Ah yes... all I need to know I learned in kindergarden. How adult is that, really?
quote: Why should you have the luxury? I am being severely criticised for my part of the sharing.
quote: Though I doubt you really want to hear my opinions..... You cannot use the Bible as documented proof of anything until you can verify the source. You have not done so. And as far as I can tell, you haven't tried. Tautologies don't count. Faith doesn't count either, because faith can 'prove' anything. And does.
quote: Of course, all of them tentative and dependent upon evidence.
quote: Basically, I am a very radical empiricists though not precisely a naturalist.
quote: Like hell you haven't!!! ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com [Fix UBB quoting. --Admin] [This message has been edited by Admin, 08-15-2002]
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John Inactive Member |
For those who care....
[QUOTE]Originally posted by allen:
[B]john some people make me laugh but you make me laugh hysterically until l i start crying and i can no longer take your stupidity anymore because you have shown yourself the true rear end of a donkey and i am sickened by your lack of real intelegence you profusely spew from your fingers words of empty reasoning and i really dont care to continue this whatever it is of a conversation in this forum so please let me depart from your blind eyes and numming conversation you spew out at me i no longer care what the hell you think or say or do ow whatever you are and i could give you a quarter to call someone who cares but in your case you would debate your way to the laundrymat instead of the phone booth and loose the quarter along the way, i have no feeling for you and your dumb thinking, you would reject a helping hand if it was offered to you while you hang on a ledge screeming for help,i hope this post causes you to realiz this is how i see your preveous posts to me, all run togeter but in a line, all close but no winner, truth is what one sees as a honest quest finalized after searching ALL aspects of ones hunt. you should stop looking so far away for the truth as it is sitting in front of you if you are holding the bible. did you not know dear friend that the scales of hell cover your eyes, and that all you need to do is have simple faith, and did't you read in the bible not to learn of or listen to o the rreligions least you fall in them? John you cannot convince me one iota..that you read and applied the word of the only one living God. please don't even throw evil names at me of other gods, because i dont worship them and never will, in you case you dont even have a god, you are too busy escaping the one thing you know in you heart that you need to come to Jesus. Don't tell me different. If i hurt your kindergarden feelings i appoligise for that, i know a good mind is not a thing to waste. Stop waisting your mind for your own sake. Your answers to my post are actually quite good. I hope you do well in your quest in finding Jesus. Oops sorry, because if you do research all the other gods in this world, you will find the best one to be Jesus. i will read your responce to this post, but i will not respond to it because i dont want to keep casting my pearls in the wrong direction. Remember if you sow your seed on rock and gravel it will not grow, if you sow your seed on fertal land it will grow and produce good fruit. Which one do you want to be, the seed on the rock or the seed on the fertile land. All the proof i have for you is in the bible, so read it again john, stop being hardheaded, your spiritual future, and your ever lasting spiritual life depends on the choice you make.Buddah or Jesus.[b][/QUOTE] Still waiting for that adult reply aren't you? I think you make a great case for christianity. Lets run through it shall we? you make me laugh hysterically your stupidity the true rear end of a donkey your lack of real intelegence empty reasoning your blind eyes and numming conversation debate your way to the laundrymat instead of the phone booth and loose the quarter along the way your dumb thinking reject a helping hand if it was offered to you while you hang on a ledge screeming for help the scales of hell cover your eyes you cannot convince me one iota your kindergarden feelings Stop waisting your mind Your answers to my post are actually quite good. --- whoa, where did that come from? casting my pearls in the wrong direction stop being hardheaded ******* So.... You mean if I read the Bible I can have all of this too!!!??? The name calling? The myopia? The utter refusal to even reply to any specific objections made? WOW. I believe in one fell swoop you trumped even Jet. ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com
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John Inactive Member |
quote: No offense but... fickle aren't you?
quote: Why not just answer the questions I have posed? Enjoyed? Do you mean laughing yourself silly at my stupidity?
quote: Why not just answer the questioned I have posed to you?
quote: Frankly, you couldn't bully or ridicule your way with me so now you are resorting to flattery and appeal to my warm-cuddlies. I am not impressed.
quote: Why not just answer the questions I have posed? ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com
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John Inactive Member |
quote: So are you going to actually reply to anything I've said, or just repeat yourself ad infinitum? ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com
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John Inactive Member |
quote: wow.
[quote]first i have to find out what infinitum means[quote]
Its Latin.
quote: I can remind you.
quote: I like this forum. There are many bright people here who will not let me get away with poor reasoning or premises. What is preventing a rational discussion? Let's see.... how 'bout your refusal to engage in such a discussion?
quote: Oh damn!!!! I defy you will. What am I thinking?
quote: That's adult.
quote: Funny thing is, you have mine as well.
quote: Happy to hear it.
quote: As I would be happy to do, but it is difficult to discuss things when one gets pages of ridicule instead of honest responses.
quote: Wrong again. I have told you why I like this forum.
quote: Why? Are you somehow more mature when composing email? ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com
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John Inactive Member |
quote: Yes, I live to entertain I think my favorite line was "First, I have to find out what ad infinitum means" How hard is it to find a dictionary? Ought to be able to guess that one anyway. Or maybe, "I'm just sharing.... geez!!!" I also found it quite amusing that Allen kept waiting for an 'adult' response. ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com
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John Inactive Member |
quote: Good question. I kinda felt like getting me off-forum was the whole point-- like I was being set up for a spam attack or something. Of course, he browsed my web-site but missed the direct link to my email. Not very observant that boy.
quote: I was thinking Megadeth--- "Hello, me... it's nice talking to myself, a credit to dementia..."
quote: I was bored. With TB not arguing as vehemently as he once did, and with TC mostly gone, and wmscott, and our arch rival Conspirator (of course) there just hasn't been much to bite into lately. ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com
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