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Author Topic:   Creation DOES need to be taught with evolution
d_yankee
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Message 160 of 245 (163052)
11-24-2004 9:57 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by crashfrog
11-08-2003 2:35 PM


How do you figure untestable? Clarify what you are saying.
Creation and evolution are both hypothesises of observations of nature and the cosmos.

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d_yankee
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Message 161 of 245 (163055)
11-24-2004 10:08 PM
Reply to: Message 151 by PecosGeorge
11-23-2004 1:18 PM


Huh?
I think that your statement was very idiotic. That's exactly what creationism is. Science. There are many "sciences": Biology, Physics, Cosmology..etc. Even History is a science.
Science means knowledge. Evolution is a theory, that some-- watch this-- scientists, who are people studying something to find out in order to "know", think is what they observe happened. Creation is a theory, that some-- watch this-- scientists, who are people studying something to find out in order to "know", think is what they observe happened.

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d_yankee
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Message 186 of 245 (163558)
11-27-2004 6:20 PM
Reply to: Message 165 by AdminAsgara
11-25-2004 12:02 AM


Re: I strongly disagree
I think you're absolutely wrong about find people on the forum that support him... and you seem very irrationally biased against him when everything that Dr. Hovind says it totally irrefutable.

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d_yankee
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Message 187 of 245 (163559)
11-27-2004 6:36 PM
Reply to: Message 166 by Lithodid-Man
11-25-2004 12:12 AM


Re: I strongly disagree
It is almost spine tingling to hear that someone can actually be as blind as you are. I live in America... I mean does anyone really believe in evolution anymore, or ever really did? Come on. Wake up. Dr. Horvid says it perfectly at dr.dino.org. In every classroom I've been in only two or three not too intelligent students who can't think with common sense or for themselves for that matter have believed this myth/nonsense. I'd be embarrassed if I actually believed in it. Only a little over 10% of America even believes the fairytale and last I checked 50% of the world's scientists actually still trying to keep fighting for this religion. Which means that more and more scientists are realizing that they have been had. Be honest and sincere to yourself and reexamine what you are believing and stop making foolish statements. All you're doing is boasting about your ignorance.

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d_yankee
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Message 193 of 245 (164209)
11-30-2004 10:30 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by Brian
11-08-2003 3:27 PM


Taken as a belief
Of course...isn't evolution taken as a belief? Hello!

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d_yankee
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Message 195 of 245 (164216)
11-30-2004 10:52 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by sidelined
11-08-2003 3:36 PM


World myths
They do. Evolution. That is one of the world myths of the origin of species.
Creation is not only obvious...which is why you atheist find yourselves saying things like "creation" and "created" so often without even noticing it. LOL!!! But Creationism and the Bible has, not everchanging assumptions, like evolution does...but obvious scientific and historic explanations to everything that scientists have discovered.
Example:
The way that the Flood is described in the Bible explains to the TEE, the fossils, the ocean ridges, the frozen bones, closed oysters being found on top of MT. Everest...etc.
The preFlood age of the Bible explains to the TEE why people, animal, and plants were so big before the flood.
Nature shows MicroEvolution, not Macroevolution.
The fact that the Carbon 14 in the atmosphere which would take 30,000 years to reach equilibrium still decaying! Hello! Anybody there.
Can't you see that evolutionists see things according to there preconceived imaginations? They don't date the amount of Carbon 14 in the bones, they date fossils according to the rock they are covered by or next to. This rock isn't dated, it is based on this imaginary "Geological Column Chart" someone invented. The trees standing in a vertical stance "through" the supposedly different rock ages! LOL! That's evidence of the FLOOD. The Bible is real. Creationism is real. Science "PROOVES" this. Evolution is not science it is a belief that although science shows evidence to be false...is chosen to be either believed anyway or blindly and unconsciously believed because of "INDOCTRINATION"

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d_yankee
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Message 209 of 245 (164488)
12-01-2004 7:50 PM
Reply to: Message 198 by David Fitch
11-30-2004 11:57 PM


Re: World myths
1) First answer. That is because most evolutionists are atheists. Now, evolutionists are beginning to sway over to an intelligent designer. So because of being atheists for so long they have neglected extensive study in the fields of history, theology, and the Bible...making them Biblically retarded if you will.
2) Second answer. Yes. Through my studies of history, theology, science, and the Bible I take them literally when they mean it.
2a) Orogeny is part of what happened during the Great Flood. Genesis states..."the fountains of the great deep "BURST" open and the water above the heaven poured down upon the earth...
2b)Can you state what conflicting myths you are talking about. Because I've read many translations of the Bible and don't know what you may be talking about. Clarify.

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d_yankee
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Message 212 of 245 (164493)
12-01-2004 8:27 PM
Reply to: Message 199 by crashfrog
12-01-2004 12:51 AM


Froggy
First of all, the "FLOOD", not FLUD, explains it all.
The Bible states that before the flood the earth had a water canopy surrounding the earth, most likely ice...you can even see ice surrounding other planets in our solar system as well.
So the earth had a hyperventilated atmosphere of maybe double the oxygen we have today, something like the greenhouse effect. You can see in the fossils of plants and animals that show that they grew much, much larger than today. The frozen neanderthals(humans), mammoths, and other animals were humonguously larger as well.
Trees, today, that are given double the ventilation have grown up to quadrupal their size in some 20 year experiments.
Explaining why dinosaurs, or (dragons) as they were called before 1838, were so big and had such small snouts. Also explaining why humans, who were much bigger in that time, can live an average of 912 years, the Bible explains.
Remember, if the temperature is above a certain degrees or below a certain degrees...a prizm can not be seen. Explaining why there was no rainbow before the flood.
Most likely a comet broke through the canopy of ice or liquid water and hit the earth causing what we see as a seeming meteor hit the earth...but where is it? It was a comet most likely and played a part in some ice age effect...frozen mammoths, neanderthals,...etc.
The fossils show that there are trees that are standing upright and through "supposedly" different ages of rocks. LOL. It's obvious that they were buried by the mud and the shifting of the plates. Genesis states "the fountains of the great deep were broken up and 'Burst' open..."
Finally, you said "Species"... God never told him species....He said "KINDS"...
A male and female, obviously young if they were to replenish the earth, of every "KIND" of animal, not species.
There are 8,000 "KINDS" of animals in the world. God did not tell him the sea creatures...or fish...so minus that.
There are many different variations of dogs, wolves, but they are all dogs.
There are zebras, donkeys...but they are all horses.
Microevolution is obvious, macroevolution is obviously NOT.
Next.

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