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sidelined
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Message 17 of 25 (164765)
12-02-2004 9:43 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Delbert Grady
12-01-2004 12:06 PM


Delbert Grady
What always strikes me about these sort of dogmatic and determined atheists, who tell us to grow up and stop believing in pink unicorns orbiting Saturn, is that they assume a position that no evidence means evidence of nothing pertaining to their own mindsets. In this way - we don't see air, so it's not there
As an atheist I do not personally have any problem with you believing in pink unicorns orbiting Saturn just don't give us the impression that you have any means of showing us evidence that such a thing exists without having an arguement that can be investigated.
You are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts.
they assume a position that no evidence means evidence of nothing pertaining to their own mindsets. In this way - we don't see air,
You mistake a mindset for a requirment of an arguement being more than just opinion.If an arguement has a basis that holds up under questioning then it can claim some level of validity.Can you provide a decent arguement that shows air really isn't there? Perhaps you would care to step into a hyperbaric chamber while it is cycled through different pressures and see if perhaps some evidence would make itself clear in your viewpoint?
People usually say, "I have no reason to believe because science doesn't say anything about God".....Forgive me - but what a get out, who's asking science? Is science the only way to know things?
Well perhaps you can show something else that it demonstratable and repeatable that would buttress your arguement.If an atheist such as myself finds that the methods of science are the most persuasive and
offer the best support for their arguements then that is the way that I will follow since it is my choice to make why trouble yourself over it?
- maybe they just have no imaginitive capabilities.
Science requires HUGE imagination. Scientists do not simply think up something and jot it down get a few friends together and say that the problem is solved or the questioin is answered.Perhaps it would do you good to try and see if you can grasp some of the findings of science that you do not think are so by trying to do some actual science.
. I know I have wonderful feelings which I cannot evidence.
Have you tried any means of investigation to see if there is any explanation for these feelings? Would you faer such a test to see if there is? Do you never wonder if feelings can be explained or do you just push such thought aside as impenetrable?
So if the bible is a fairytale to you - yet it speaks truly to me - and gets things right in reality, in my life - and in the same way you could test a science book - then a science book is just as much fairytale to those who subjectively create atheistic positions from it
I never based my atheism on science. Science supports my views but the reasons for atheism are far more numerous than that and as such are quite independent of this.Perhaps you shouldn't paint all atheists with the same brush.
And I have used a subjective story to fulfill a subjective mindset.
So you need no part of science in your life and as such your subjective world can exist independent of the objective findings of science.Good for you.It must be wonderful to be able to do that.
This message has been edited by sidelined, 12-05-2004 10:20 AM
This message has been edited by sidelined, 12-05-2004 10:21 AM

"Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color."
--Don Hirschberg

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