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Author Topic:   Age Correlations and an Old Earth: Part II.
roxrkool
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Message 11 of 306 (165779)
12-06-2004 10:08 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by TheLiteralist
12-06-2004 6:57 PM


Re: B.P. ?
And just in case:
Ma = million years old/ago
Ga = billion years old/ago

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Message 234 of 306 (253542)
10-20-2005 8:59 PM
Reply to: Message 228 by RAZD
10-20-2005 7:03 PM


I thought I'd add that the ice is not restricted to the arctic regions. Most mountain ranges in the U.S. (above certain elevations) also have glaciers (just as they do today) that advance and retreat.
These glaciers have left stacked records of glacial and interglacial periods recorded via glacial deposits called moraines, tills, outwash, etc., and in some places, their relative timing can be correlated to similar glacial deposits on other mountain ranges.
Glacial deposits can be dated by various means, as well, which in turn are correlated to other depositional events such as varves.
Here's an interesting fact sheet from the USGS regarding varves and climate studies: Evidence of climate change over the last 10,000 years from the sediments of lakes in the Upper Mississippi Basin
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roxrkool
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Message 236 of 306 (253552)
10-20-2005 9:44 PM
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10-20-2005 9:24 PM


Re: Lots of sources ....
razd writes:
Some of my examples were from S.American glaciers.
I know. I just elaborated a little for the people who don't like to click on links. Without clicking the link you provided, one is left thinking glacial periods are only defined by immense ice sheets expanding from the artic regions.
Yes. There really is overwhelming evidence, imho, of an old earth from a number of sources that are really more accessible to the average person than the data which shows that the earth revolves around the sun.
I agree.

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Message 247 of 306 (254758)
10-25-2005 3:16 PM
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10-25-2005 2:47 PM


I'm sure you mean diamonds with Carbon-14 in them, so do you have an article on this? I couldn't find any papers on GeoRef about such a thing.

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roxrkool
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Message 249 of 306 (254765)
10-25-2005 3:58 PM
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10-25-2005 3:30 PM


Re: C14 in diamonds
I know I've seen it mentioned before, but has it only been found and studied by creationist organizations? I can't find any mainstream papers about this. I've tried several different search terms, but perhaps I haven't hit the right one yet.

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roxrkool
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Message 254 of 306 (254817)
10-25-2005 8:53 PM
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10-25-2005 4:35 PM


Re: C14 in diamonds
Like you, I've only found creationist sites that cite this evidence, but I haven't actually found the exact paper, either, that presents the results of such a study. Knowing what I know about creationist 'research,' I wouldn't be surprised if the C-14 was the result of contamination.
I couldn't find any secular papers discussing C-14 in diamonds, do you have links or refs to any?

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roxrkool
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Message 255 of 306 (254818)
10-25-2005 8:58 PM
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10-25-2005 6:23 PM


Re: C14 in diamonds
Do you have a link discussing diamonds-radioactivity?

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roxrkool
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Message 259 of 306 (254839)
10-26-2005 12:05 AM
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10-25-2005 9:37 PM


Re: C14 in diamonds
Ah, thank you. And thanks for the TO link, RAZD - very helpful and interesting.
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