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Dr Jack
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Message 1 of 39 (166489)
12-09-2004 8:32 AM


The Joke:
A reporter walks into a bar and sees Rumsfeld and Bush at the bar laughing.
He walks over and asks what's so funny.
Rumsfeld says, "The President and I were discussing his plan to bomb 40 million Iraqis and one big-titted blonde."
The report exclaims, "What! Why are you going to kill one big-titted blonde?"
Bush turns to Rumsfeld and says: "See, I told you, no one would worry about 40 million dead Muslims"
Now, I think this Joke isn't it bad taste at all but others have said it is because it mentions "40 million dead Muslims".
What do you think? Is it in bad taste? Why?

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Dan Carroll
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Message 2 of 39 (166496)
12-09-2004 9:16 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Dr Jack
12-09-2004 8:32 AM


No, I don't think it's in bad taste. The joke is that 40 million dead Muslims is a bad thing, and maybe the kind of think people should frikkin' care about.

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Quetzal
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Message 3 of 39 (166506)
12-09-2004 10:07 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Dr Jack
12-09-2004 8:32 AM


You're asking Dan about whether a joke is in bad taste? Now THERE'S a strange concept...
What do you think? Is it in bad taste? Why?
"Taste" is pretty subjective. A lot of political humor is designed to hit very close to home - that's what makes it "funny", in a grim sort of way, as people can relate to it (sometimes uncomfortably). I don't think this particular version is "funny" as in ha, ha. I do think the "joke" is quite accurate in portraying the relative mindset of our current leadership (not to mention a large fraction of the US population, apparently). This kind of black humor is supposed to be over the top. I'm not sure whether the fact that it is probably offensive to some or even many people is important.

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Dan Carroll
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Message 4 of 39 (166509)
12-09-2004 10:24 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Quetzal
12-09-2004 10:07 AM


You're asking Dan about whether a joke is in bad taste? Now THERE'S a strange concept...
Think of it this way... if I say yes, this joke is in bad taste, then you frikkin' know it is.
A lot of political humor is designed to hit very close to home - that's what makes it "funny", in a grim sort of way, as people can relate to it (sometimes uncomfortably).
See, I'll go you one further, and say that any really good humor does this, political or not.
Bill Hicks says it better than I could:
quote:
If comedy is an escape from anything, it is an escape from illusions. The comic, by using the Voice of Reason, reminds us of our True Reality, and in that moment of recognition, we laugh, and the "reality of the daily grind" is shown for what it is - unreal... a joke. True comedy turns circles into spirals. What before seemed a tiresome, frightening, or frustrating wall, the comic deftly and fearlessly steps through, proving the absurdity of it all. The audience is relieved to know they're not alone in thinking, "This bullshit we see and hear all day makes no sense. Surely I'm not the only one who thinks so. And surely there must be an answer..." Good comedy helps people know they're not alone. Great comedy provides an answer.

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Minnemooseus
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Message 5 of 39 (166511)
12-09-2004 10:36 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Dr Jack
12-09-2004 8:32 AM


Expected stupidity vs. unexpected stupidity
I think the joke is valid comentary on the Bush administration.
Perhaps make the subtitle "Expected (albeit exagerated) stupidity vs. unexpected stupidity".
Simple minded Moose

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Mammuthus
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Message 6 of 39 (166512)
12-09-2004 10:46 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Quetzal
12-09-2004 10:07 AM


Now you have gone and done it...contracycle will be here any moment to tell you that because you 1) come from the country from which the joke derives 2) come from the country that is part of the subject of the joke 3) were born in the US 4) he saw a television show about it, that you are a fascist, imperialist, nazi like anyone else who disagrees with him and you must be dealt with using violence...oh yeah and whether you voted for or against Bush...it is your fault Bush was elected.

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crashfrog
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Message 7 of 39 (166532)
12-09-2004 12:07 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Mammuthus
12-09-2004 10:46 AM


oh yeah and whether you voted for or against Bush...it is your fault Bush was elected.
Personally I think it's Contracycle's fault Bush was elected, for not coming over here 4 years ago, naturalizing as a US citizen, and voting in this last election.
Shame on him!

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Loudmouth
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Message 8 of 39 (166543)
12-09-2004 12:44 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Dr Jack
12-09-2004 8:32 AM


Of course the joke is in bad taste. But isn't that the point of the joke?

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berberry
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Message 9 of 39 (166544)
12-09-2004 12:47 PM


What about this one?
An SUV filled with nuns crashes into a Yugo and all of the nuns are killed (talk about the unfairness of it all). As they reach the Pearly Gates, St. Peter tells the first one "before I can allow you into heaven I must ask one question: have you ever had any contact with the male sex organ?" The nun responds "well, when I was just a little girl I saw one". St. Pete says "oh, I don't think that's so bad. If you'll just step right over there and wash your eyes out with the holy water you can go on into heaven."
The second nun approaches and St. Pete asks "have you ever had any contact with the male sex organ?" The nun hesitates, then says "well, when I was a teenager I once touched one". St. Pete says "that's not so bad, really. If you'll just step over there and wash your hands with the holy water you can go on into heaven."
Just then a commotion arose in the queue of nuns. One nun shoves another aside and runs past her and straight up to St. Peter. St. Peter says "now, now, what's all this about?" The nun says "St. Peter, please, please, please! Can I just go over there and gargle with the holy water before Sister Rose has to sit in it?"

Dog is my copilot.

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MrHambre
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Message 10 of 39 (166574)
12-09-2004 2:59 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Mammuthus
12-09-2004 10:46 AM


Left Wing-Nut
Marx predicted we'd see tasteless humour like this when the fascist McCarthyite brainwashing indoctrination reached a certain point in the United States of Fascism. That's why I consider it ideologically inevitable that the nuclear-weapons-equipped USF will be overthrown by a loosely-organized band of gender-and-race-mixed freedom fighters whose goal is to set up a collective commune of two hundred and fifty million people (give or take twenty million who might complain), all united in weaving things and being equal.
your comrade,
Esteban Hambre

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Loudmouth
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Message 11 of 39 (166577)
12-09-2004 3:06 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by MrHambre
12-09-2004 2:59 PM


Re: Left Wing-Nut
quote:
That's why I consider it ideologically inevitable that the nuclear-weapons-equipped USF will be overthrown by a loosely-organized band of gender-and-race-mixed freedom fighters whose goal is to set up a collective commune of two hundred and fifty million people (give or take twenty million who might complain), all united in weaving things and being equal.
Perhaps we become the USC, the United States of Canda? (Not meant as an insult to Canadians, I would actually support such a movement).

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zephyr
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Message 12 of 39 (166596)
12-09-2004 4:03 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Dr Jack
12-09-2004 8:32 AM


nahh
Oh my god! How dare they waste a pair of titties! Can't they air-evac her before the bombs start falling?

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SoulSlay
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Message 13 of 39 (166642)
12-09-2004 5:53 PM


Seriously,
ALL good jokes are in bad taste or offensive. If a joke doesn't offend SOMEBODY it can't be funny. There are some ok non-offensive jokes, but no great ones. By the way, great nun joke, I'll tell you what my catholic friends think of it.

  
Phat
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Message 14 of 39 (166887)
12-10-2004 4:38 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Dr Jack
12-09-2004 8:32 AM


Speaking of Jokes....
In the hopes of offending an Irishman or two...
Two Irish friends greeted each other while waiting their turn at the bank window. "This reminds me of Finnegan," remarked one.
"What about Finnegan?" inquired the other.
"'Tis a story that Finnegan died, and when he greeted St. Peter, he said: 'It's a fine job you've had here for a long time.' 'Well, Finnegan,' said St. Peter, 'here we count a million years as a minute and a million dollars as a cent.' 'Ah!' said Finnegan, 'I'm needing cash. Lend me a cent.' 'Sure,' said St. Peter, 'just wait a minute.'"
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SoulSlay
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Message 15 of 39 (166977)
12-10-2004 2:14 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Phat
12-10-2004 4:38 AM


Re: Speaking of Jokes....
nice... not offensive enough however.

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