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jar
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Message 9 of 80 (165193)
12-04-2004 3:39 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by NosyNed
12-04-2004 3:37 PM


Re: Mmmmmm now there's a thought
The bigger question is what would you do if you won? Isn't Quebec enough of a problem?

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jar
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Message 11 of 80 (165195)
12-04-2004 3:45 PM
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12-04-2004 3:41 PM


Re: Problems
Just don't forget the little red dot in the withdrawl terms.

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jar
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Message 44 of 80 (167761)
12-13-2004 3:47 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by JESUS freak
12-13-2004 1:43 PM


Re: News Flash... Read news before posting
However, he has given money to terrorists,
JF
You're young and so there is much you're not really supposed to know yet, but there is much too that you can learn.
No Nation in history has done more to create, fund, aid, supply and train terrorists than the United States. We have done so regularly for over a century in places like Iran, Iraq, Afganistan, India, Pakistan, Celon, Cyprus, Angola, South Africa, Mozambique, Congo, Turkey, Chile, Peru, Mexico, Cambodia, Vietnam, China, Greece, Argentina, Brazil, Philippines, Costa Rico, Dominican Republic, Columbia (Hell we stole a whole piece of their nation and created a whole new government and nation from it. See next entry.), Panama, Ireland, Haiti, Hondurus, Bolivia...
There are more terrorists trained in the US than in any other Nation and more trained under US Military efforts than under any other form.

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jar
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Message 52 of 80 (167833)
12-13-2004 7:29 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by JESUS freak
12-13-2004 5:06 PM


JF, Please try to understand.
Yeah, I knew we put saddam in power, that was a big mistake, and now we are correcting it. (though I don't know what president did it)
No, we didn't put him in power. That's one of the few things we didn't do.
But we certainly supported him even when we knew he was using Chemical Warfare against his own people. We supported him for many decades when we were well aware of what he was doing in terms of slaughtering the opposition.
Then we gave him the Go-Ahead and okay to invade Kuwait. When he did so, we turned around and opposed his actions. And we did it all simply because we felt it was in our own short term interests.
Then we encouraged terrorism and uprising within Iraq only to fail to support those we had encouraged and simply stood aside while he slaughtered the very people we had encouraged to revolt.
But if you will reread my post, there were one or two other places and events I mentioned.
Before you get too much more involved you really need to learn about the history of those other incidents and examples of US created and supported terrorism.

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jar
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Message 54 of 80 (168622)
12-15-2004 3:45 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by JESUS freak
12-15-2004 2:03 PM


Re: JF, Please try to understand.
Trust me, I've looked around on this stuff. Do you have any proof that we gave saddam the go ahead? Nothing has ever mentioned this.
Of course there is proof. Nor is it much of a secret. And it was widely reported at the time.
The go ahead was given by Ambassador April Glaspie. By the way, you should really take the time to study her career.
Here's a link to the transcript of the meeting between Saddam and Glaspie.
Things like this should be common knowledge, certainly as commonly known as the links between the Bush clan and drug dealers.
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jar
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Message 56 of 80 (168627)
12-15-2004 3:57 PM
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12-15-2004 3:50 PM


Re: What proof
Link should work now.
2. what is your proof that this transcrip is true
Well, Glaspie has admitted that was what she said.
But the point of all of this is that terrorism has bee a favorite tool of the US for many, many decades. In particular, Ronald Reagan believed it was the single best too of diplomacy and created terrorist organizations all over the world.

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jar
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Message 60 of 80 (168957)
12-16-2004 2:28 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by JESUS freak
12-16-2004 11:52 AM


Re: Any real proof?
JF
I gave you a link to the transcript of the conversation between Saddam and Ambassador Glaspie, one that she has acknowledged. Now short of actually having been sitting in on the conversation (I was asked to attend but there was a T-Ball practice that day) I don't know how much more evidence I could provide.
Now about Ronald Reagan, as a Republican I can say he was without a doubt one of the WORST Presidents we have ever had and an even bigger failure as Governor.
But let's look specifically at RR and Terrorism. He supported, funded and created the Contras. He approved having the CIA smuggle drugs into the US as a means of funding activities that had been specifically forbidden by Congress. He created, funded, trained and equiped the mujahadeen in Afgansitan, the Kurds, Sunni and Shia uprisings in Iran and Iraq, traded weapons to IRAN, and funded, supported, equipped and trained terrorists in Nicaragua and Hondurus as well as supporting General Noriega in Panama. And, as a parting shot, he had all of the records sealed effectively shutting off the investigation known as Iran-Contra and protecting George Bush from the fallout.
No, there is no doubt that Reagan, like most American Presidents, has seen terrorism as a valid extension of Diplomacy.
JF, the reason I bring these up is that we, as Americans, need to know ALL of our history, the good and the bad, and learn from it. If we do not, we will simply continue making the same mistakes and errors time after time.

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jar
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Message 64 of 80 (169064)
12-16-2004 5:04 PM
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12-16-2004 4:16 PM


Re: Any real proof?
JF
Who do you think we gave the stingers (and money and training and other weapons and advisors and support) to in Afganistan?
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jar
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Message 70 of 80 (169131)
12-16-2004 6:51 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by JESUS freak
12-16-2004 6:47 PM


Re: Any real proof?
Gave who in Afganistan stingers? The Afgan government? The terrorist trying to attack the ligitimate government? Who?

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jar
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Message 79 of 80 (174659)
01-07-2005 9:37 AM
Reply to: Message 76 by JESUS freak
01-04-2005 5:20 PM


Re: Report does not say he supported terrorists
Read the Reports of the Iran Contra investigation. Also look at the executive order by Reagan before leaving office that sealed the records and effectively closed down the investigation.

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