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Jonathan
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Message 1 of 3 (16258)
08-29-2002 8:05 PM


This was in the newspaper today. Just like to hear some opinions.
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"Making monkeys out of evolutionists"
BY: Cal Thomas
It's back-to-school time. That means school supplies,
clothes, packing lunches and the annual battle over what
can be taught.
The Cobb County, Ga., School Board voted unanimously Aug.
22 to consider a pluralistic approach to the origin of the human
race, rather than the mandated theory of evolution. The board
will review a proposal which says the district "believes that
discussion of disputed views of academic subjects is a
necessary element of providing a balanced education,
including the study of the origin of the species."
Immediately, pro-evolution forces jumped from their trees and
started behaving as if someone had stolen their bananas.
Apparently, academic freedom is for other subjects. Godzilla
forbid! (This is the closest one may get to mentioning "God" in
such a discussion, lest the ACLU intervene, which it has
threatened to do in Cobb County, should the school board
commit academic freedom. God may be mentioned if His
Name modifies "damn." The First Amendment's free speech
clause protects such an utterance, we are told by the ACLU.
The same First Amendment, according to their twisted logic,
allegedly prohibits speaking well of God.)
What do evolutionists fear? If scientific evidence for creation is
academically unsound and outrageously untrue, why not
present the evidence and allow students to decide which view
makes more sense? At the very least, presenting both sides
would allow them to better understand the two views.
Pro-evolution forces say (and they are saying it again in Cobb
County) that no "reputable scientist" believes in the creation
model. That is demonstrably untrue. No less a pro-evolution
source than Science Digest noted in 1979 that, "scientists who
utterly reject Evolution may be one of our fastest-growing
controversial minorities...Many of the scientists supporting this
position hold impressive credentials in science." (Larry
Hatfield, "Educators Against Darwin.")
In the last 30 years, there's been a wave of books by scientists
who do not hold to a Christian-apologetic view on the origins of
humanity but who have examined the underpinnings of
evolutionary theory and found them to be increasingly suspect.
Those who claim no "reputable scientist" holds to a creation
model of the universe must want to strip credentials from such
giants as Johann Kepler (1571-1630), the founder of physical
astronomy. Kepler wrote, "Since we astronomers are priests
of the highest God in regard to the book of nature, it befits us to
be thoughtful, not of the glory of our minds, but rather, above all
else, of the glory of God."
Werner Von Braun (1912-1977), the father of space science,
wrote: "...the vast mysteries of the universe should only
confirm our belief in the certainty of its Creator. I find it as
difficult to understand a scientist who does not acknowledge
the presence of a superior rationality behind the existence of
the universe as it is to comprehend a theologian who would
deny the advances of science."
Who would argue that these and many other scientists were
ignorant about science because they believed in God?
Contemporary evolutionists who do so are practicing
intellectual slander. Anything involving God, or His works, they
believe, is to be censored because humankind must only study
ideas it comes up with apart from any other influence. Such
thinking led to the Holocaust, communism and a host of other
evils conjured up by the deceitful and wicked mind of
uncontrolled Man.
There are only two models for the origin of humans: evolution
and creation. If creation occurred, it did so just once and there
will be no "second acts." If evolution occurs, it does so too
slowly to be observed. Both theories are accepted on faith by
those who believe in them. Neither theory can be tested
scientifically because neither model can be observed or
repeated.
Why are believers in one model -- evolution -- seeking to impose their faith on those
who hold that there is scientific evidence which supports the other model? It's because
they fear they will lose their influence and academic power base after a free and open
debate. They are like political dictators who oppose democracy, fearing it will rob them
of power.
The parallel views should be taught in Cobb County, Ga., and everywhere else, and let
the most persuasive evidence win.
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Message 2 of 3 (16260)
08-29-2002 8:24 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Jonathan
08-29-2002 8:05 PM


And I suppose that they wouldn't mind it if alchemy and astrology were also taught as "alternatives" to chemistry and astonomy as well. What would they be afraid of. Afterall it would only be "fair". They don't seem to realize that science is not about being "fair", it is about the facts. There are no credible, verifible, nor unbiased facts in favor of creationism. It is religion and has no basis in reality. Unlike legitimate science pseudo-science (creationism) will continue to try to make the facts fit the "theory" even after it has been shown to be false. With legitimate science if the facts don't fit the theory is scrapped. But than again creationists don't really need facts since they have faith instead.
I know that American science education is mainly a joke, but this will make it a total laughing stock. If you want to teach creationism teach it were it belongs, in Sunday school where it can be safely ignored. You wouldn't want someone to start teaching math during Sunday mass, would you now?
P.S.
If they do get this imposed then they will have to teach ALL creation myths. There are now around 150 or so different creation myths in the world, including the two accounts from Christianity. It would only be "fair". What do they have to fear?
Something interesting. It seems that it is mainly just Americans who have a "problem" with Evolution. Even the Church in Rome has accepted it as a fact and we know how difficult it is to get them to addmit it when they are wrong. It took them over 400 years just to pardon Galileo.
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Message 3 of 3 (16866)
09-07-2002 4:26 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by nos482
08-29-2002 8:24 PM


Sorry, I am not responding directly to CAL Thomas ( I think I may have heard this on the radio, but have not read through it to compelete remebrence but I wanted to point out that the newspaper report I read in 96 showed that the Catholic Church had accepted as "fact" Darwinlegit etc and Gould's Millienium Book made the distinctions of this kind of reporting but when I read the actual document I realized that the Pope in a sentence not dirctely about humans nicely showed the difference at work among biology, chemistry and physics and pointed out that any contained discontinuity could be possiblly running counter the actua human physico-chemistry and showed me that even relying on the intelligece of the day is no match to reading the original. i think Thomas was not not doubting but reporting.

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