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Author Topic:   Do we need science to back up religion?
mark24
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Message 46 of 50 (15768)
08-20-2002 6:55 AM
Reply to: Message 44 by KingPenguin
08-20-2002 1:39 AM


quote:
Originally posted by KingPenguin:
a religion and is man made and thus can choose to need whatever it wants to support it. religion is in the end just an opinion and opinions dont need particulary need to backed up.
thats why i see that religions are folly because they all insist that they are the ones that are correct, not that they are just a group of people who share an opinion. if you ask me i would tell you think hard and decide for yourself what is truly absolute to you. since no matter what your absolute is not my absolute.

Welcome back KP.
If something is absolute to you, but not person x,y,&z. Then "absolute" was the wrong choice of word in the first place. It is, in this context, just an opinion. That is unless you have hard evidence.
Mark
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KingPenguin
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Message 47 of 50 (16140)
08-28-2002 12:42 AM
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08-20-2002 6:55 AM


lol whats up mark?

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KingPenguin
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Message 48 of 50 (16141)
08-28-2002 12:43 AM
Reply to: Message 45 by Andya Primanda
08-20-2002 5:37 AM


Harun Yahya? never heard of em. but its nice to know youve found an answer for yourself
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Andya Primanda
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Message 49 of 50 (16166)
08-28-2002 8:05 AM
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08-28-2002 12:43 AM


Thanks.
Harun Yahya? Americans are so self-obsessed While you cres & evos battle your views locally, outside USA some powerful creationist organization had swept through the Muslim world, under the name of their leader Harun Yahya. Ironically nobody dares to stand on his way (you can count me, but as yet I am powerless against them).
Check his website
http://www.hyahya.com
Consider him the most powerful creationist in the world. Where else can you see creationist propaganda in Turkish, German, Italian, Spanish, Indonesian, Urdu, and Bosnian, in just one site?
Help me!

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Brad McFall
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Message 50 of 50 (16871)
09-07-2002 5:00 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Andya Primanda
06-14-2002 2:42 AM


quote:
Originally posted by Andya Primanda:
Some religions (esp. Islam) stated that their scripture includes scientific findings, thereby being the right one. Is there any merit for this position? Should a religion have a scientific back-up?
I have spent ()=0 time with the Koran so I can not address this as Morris may have already answered this question but in reading Galelio and looking at temple in Spain that handled water flow there is no doubt that more relations with the modern infinity can be posted either with a prior reading of scripture or not. I do not see what science can "back-up" religion exactly as I once thought if a scientist tried to use any of the 'back-up' for the wrong reasons GOD (either or neither) could have the omnicisence to change the parameterization so that the man-made scientific back-up would "dissapear" like magic though it may have been helpful to prevent falling into a black hole etc but that religion in an increasinly irrelgious (or amoral) world certainly could use "backup" from science and I take this to be a significant job that ICR CRS AIG are doing or perhaps in you view "trying" to do. But as to Islam I have no acutal religious reason to say so. I do think there is more muslim influence in science that did not go appreciated in the west that I BSM think could be cause for the 9-ll like the riots in NY of yesteryear only this time on a one world gov idea but that may be too political and not even true. There is more to a bacteria then a fluid.

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