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Author Topic:   Recent opinion piece from The Arizona Republic
Demosthenes Fan
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Message 1 of 8 (171597)
12-26-2004 6:04 PM


I am not sure where to put this, I found it today and thought it would be fun to share
On December 21st the Arizona republic ran an opinion piece by Mark Landsbaum:Help Center - The Arizona Republic , in which he claims overwhelming evidence for the ID movement, and no empirical evidence for evolution.
And here is editorial cartoonist’s Steve Benson’s response to this op piece. Help Center - The Arizona Republic
I got a good laugh from the opinion piece as well as the cartoon.

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Message 2 of 8 (171599)
12-26-2004 6:16 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Demosthenes Fan
12-26-2004 6:04 PM


Haven't read the article yet, but I (and I don't say this lightly) found the cartooon to be the funniest thing I've seen in quite a while.
Moose

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Message 3 of 8 (171606)
12-26-2004 7:17 PM
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12-26-2004 6:16 PM


I don 't think you will see a single new argument in the piece. I did a quick scan, and it had a bunch of the creationist favorites.
It will be interesting the day ID goes to the supreme court.
and the sooner the better.

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Message 4 of 8 (171608)
12-26-2004 7:38 PM
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12-26-2004 6:16 PM


Have to!!
Haven't read the article yet,
Yes you have. It has all been hashed out here a number of times (as RAZD notes). It would make a post of some of our lessor lights here look pretty good. (well, it is spelled right and has correct grammer).

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Message 5 of 8 (171609)
12-26-2004 7:43 PM
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12-26-2004 7:38 PM


Re: Have to!!
that was probably the work of the editorial staff ... (the spelling and grammar)

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Message 6 of 8 (171628)
12-26-2004 9:40 PM
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12-26-2004 7:43 PM


Re: Have to!!
Eh, I don’t recommend anyone really read the article, like Ned said, its been hashed out here many times, but the accompanying cartoon makes it even funnier. I’m glad to see that I am not the only person that finds the intellectual gymnastics of the ID movement to be rather comical.

I wish more people would shave with Occam's Razor. Orson Scott Card

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Message 7 of 8 (171629)
12-26-2004 9:41 PM
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12-26-2004 7:43 PM


Re: Have to!!
sorry about posting this twice, computer lag.
This message has been edited by Demosthenes Fan, 12-26-2004 21:43 AM

I wish more people would shave with Occam's Razor. Orson Scott Card

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Message 8 of 8 (171631)
12-26-2004 9:56 PM
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12-26-2004 9:40 PM


Re: Have to!!
I thought the monkey on the back was a nice touch.

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