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Author Topic:   Is this Intelligent Design or not?
mopsveldmuis
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Message 9 of 15 (17249)
09-12-2002 9:16 AM
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09-02-2002 3:16 PM


The oscillation was picked up by the antenna from the start of the experiment and therefore would have been detected at the output all the time aswell. The computer program just chose the design that would amplify this already existing oscillation to the output in the best way, because all the computer is programmed to do is check the output and try to make it oscillate.
Like any other experiment there was intelligence involved with the design. Humans chose a set number of transistors and decided that the connections had to be the changable parameter. To get closer to simulating the evolution theory electronically, you have to use an unlimited number of components, each one being any of the thousands of components available today and let the computer program attempt to evolve a personal computer.

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mopsveldmuis
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Message 11 of 15 (17331)
09-13-2002 3:38 AM
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09-12-2002 12:31 PM


Humans chose the transistors, the number of transistors and what the output should look like. That is all part of what you call design specifications.
What pressured dead mud to come to life? The "prebiotic soup" where life is supposed to have originated had an unlimited number of particles that could have binded in any way possible to them. To expect life to start like that is to think that a computer program connecting any number of random components in a random way will make a working and useful and complicated electronic device somewhere along the line, like a computer or a cellular phone.
Without intelligent human beings to guide such a program it will never produce anything worth while.

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mopsveldmuis
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Message 13 of 15 (17351)
09-13-2002 9:07 AM
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09-13-2002 7:08 AM


Sorry about going off the topic like that. I'll try not to do that again in future.
To go back to the electronic experiment:
From a human point of view the object was to design an oscillator, but the scientists simply programmed the computer to get a oscillating output. The computer delivered exactly what it was asked to do, so the problem was just that the scientists didn't think about what external disturbances might do to the experiment.

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