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Author Topic:   Does it take faith to accept evolution as truth?
Dr Jack
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Message 10 of 161 (176475)
01-13-2005 7:09 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by commike37
01-12-2005 11:00 PM


Descartes does an excellent job of establishing doubt as a way to remove any pre-conceived assumptions.
Descartes is like Freud, of great historical interest but basically wrong. Kant does a far better job of establishingly the limits of human knowledge in a logically secure manner.
That aside, yes, it takes faith to accept evolution as truth. But the faith involved is very different from the kind of faith that is involved in religious belief. It is, in fact, the very same faith that leads me to believe that the chair I'm sitting on is real and is there. I cannot (as Kant ably demonstrates) know1 that the chair is there and real but there is no rational and reasonable way of going through my life without thinking that it is.
1In the specific sense of Philosophical Certainty.

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Dr Jack
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Message 73 of 161 (176911)
01-14-2005 8:37 AM
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01-13-2005 7:19 PM


I didn't quote all of Descartes and all of his philosophy, I focused specifically on his views on doubt. What's wrong with his view on doubt?
Descartes system of doubts is not particularly rigorous, he fails to take it to it's logical conclusions and unlike Kant fails to explore the idea in it's own right as opposed to simply using it as a springboard for later works.
But what is more real? Evolution or the chair?
That's missing the point. I don't have to have faith specifically in Evolution, because it is empirically demonstratable from the apparent facts observable in the world. That I consider those facts to be actual takes faith, but that is all.

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