Why do guys are so sure?

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Originally posted by Hanno:
I do not have the time to go through lengthy responses, but in this case I feel I must.
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I will try to keep it short...but no promises
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Bull. You are putting words in my mouth. If you followed my argument correctly, you would've known what I said. I said if you are an atheist, you have no option but to believe in evolution. It is the only why the existance of live can be explained without a creator. However, if you DO believe in a creator, then there is the option to believe in (Creator guided) evolution, or creationism. Creationism implies the existanse of a Creator, therefore an atheist cannot believe in it, and the conclusions he makes when handling prehistoric artifacts will reflect this view. However, his views can be easily be accepted by a religious person, by believing that evolution was guided by God. And, as I said, if you're a Christian (O Jew or Muslim) this doesn't really matter. It is more important to believe IN the Creator, that in HOW He created.
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An atheist has to believe in abiogenesis and a creationist has to believe in a creator...but both can believe that evolution took and is taking place.

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Fair enough, but this wasn't the point I was making, was it? The point was that, since no genetic material was left of the animal ,say a dinosaur, you cannot determine beyond any doubt what its evolutionary tree looks like. It is pure speculation based only on its form, age, and type. (Reptile, mammal) This is aspecially true, since we do not know how many forms of live never fossilized. Example:

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Animal A 300 000 000 years old
Animal B 200 000 000 years old, looks similar to Animal A

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Conclusion: Animal B evolved from Animal A

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WRONG!!! Both Animal A and B evolved from C:
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Ummm this is a misunderstanding or strawman argument on your part...nobody would say that Animal B evolved from Animal A...they both evolved from a common ancestor and this is regardless of whether that ancestor has a fossil representative or not.

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JM: Why? If there is a possibility for one creator, then there is a possibility for many creators!
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Once again, this is a matter of faith. This is what I meant when I said you cannot use science to learn who God is. There are many religions, but Christianity is the only one that (In the first 300 years, at least) grew despite the fact that it was repressed, and that the Christians did not fight back. If Christianity was invented by man, then that man would have had no guarintee that it would ever get off the ground, never mind survive. And if this is not guarinteed, why start a religion? Technically, the Christian God is both 3 and 1. (Don't even try to understand this concept, it is just to be believed) That is why God said: "Let US make ..."
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Islam is the fastest growing religion, there are over a billion buddhists, there are hundreds of millions of hindus....that lots of people follow a religion does not make any religion true...but as you stated..it is a matter of faith.

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Furthermore, from a purely engineering perspective, our backs, feet and knees were poorly designed (if they were designed at all).
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I would love to see your plans with the improvements. Besides, I studied argitecture for 2 years, and I learned that designers also return to nature. Asspecially in advanced robotics, those that mimmic nature, are usually more effisiant.
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Ah but if your creator is perfect why did he not make a perfect construct?

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But if animals did evolve, there is no telling who is who's ancestor. It's pure speculation and educated guess work.

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