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nos482
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Message 7 of 20 (17765)
09-19-2002 7:42 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by mopsveldmuis
09-17-2002 1:38 PM


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Originally posted by mopsveldmuis:
Is this now according to your knowledge or according to actual facts?
Which part of the Bible has been proven wrong?
Where can I find a complete scientific explanation of how everything that had to happen for evolution to be possible happened.
God told us how He did it and modern dating techniques supports a young earth more and more, which is precisely what we learn from Genesis. Where is the counter argument to prove that we didn't need any help to be where we are today with life having started 10000 years ago?

Here's the sort of evidence which Christians see as proof that all of the bible is true.
I.E. In the story of Puss N Boots the cat visits London England, an actaul place, to see the Queen, a real person who lived, so this proves without a doubt that cats can talk like humans and wear clothing.
BTW, how does "modern dating techniques supports a young earth more and more"? Are you speaking of creation science or real science? Which legitimate peer reviewed journals is this in? The ICR site doesn't count.
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nos482
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Message 9 of 20 (17774)
09-19-2002 10:25 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by mark24
09-19-2002 9:38 AM


quote:
Originally posted by mark24:
quote:
Originally posted by mopsveldmuis:
God told us how He did it and modern dating techniques supports a young earth more and more, which is precisely what we learn from Genesis.
God didn't tell you how he did it. You read in a book that claims to be the word of God, that God did it. Perhaps you could tell us exactly what mechanisms God actually used to create the universe, & reference what part of the bible that it's in?
Provide peer reviewed scientific literature that supports a young earth "more & more".
What a quality claim!
Mark

Don't you know? God works in mysterious ways and it is not up to us poor sinners to understand this so shut up and have some faith that god loves and knows what is best for you. (Note: Sarcasm)
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nos482
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Message 15 of 20 (18004)
09-23-2002 9:28 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by mopsveldmuis
09-23-2002 8:51 AM


Originally posted by mopsveldmuis:
The fact that the universe and our solar system is fine-tuned to support life demands for intelligent design.
Fine tuned? In what way? If the Earth had a methane atmosphere than we would be methane breathers. The Earth isn't "fine tuned" to suppose us, we are adapted to it. The first forms of life on this planet weren't oxygen based.
For life to start, information had to start at the same time and there is no possible way in which random specified information can come into existence without an intelligent being originating it.
Why not? Please define information in this context.

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nos482
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Message 16 of 20 (18005)
09-23-2002 9:35 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by mopsveldmuis
09-23-2002 8:47 AM


Originally posted by mopsveldmuis:
For lots of information on how archaeology supports the Bible, have a look at:
Archaeology and the Bible - ChristianAnswers.Net
Now, that is an unbiased source.
So, in the story of Puss N Boots the cat goes to London England, a real place, to see the Queen (Victoria) a real person who once lived, so this proves, by using your "reasoning", that without a doubt that Cats can talk as humans do? That makes perfect sense... NOT!
There are no explanations of how the information necessary for life to start came about without any intelligence present.
And there is none to explain with it either. Well, none which is credible, verifible, or unbiased that is.
This is why I think life started less than 10000 years ago:
http://home.att.net/~creationoutreach/pages/7internt.html
Again, another unbiased source.
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