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09-19-2002 10:30 AM


pleassssssse, can any of you help this poster :
http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?s=c89b7e5a94419b8be60...
Originally posted by Martinm
What I, and most scientists, do object to is people trying to replace science with religion. Religion per se is not a problem. If you want to believe that the world was created 6000 years ago, that's your business. Expecting it to be taught in science class, or given any credence by the scientific community is another matter.
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Saint_Dirtbag responded quite well, but I want to add this. I agree with you creationism is a religous belife. But no more so than evolution.
One definition for religion is "A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion."
And this is from the National Science Teachers Association site (so its not a Christian site but a secular science site)
"What is the ``scientific method''?
1. Observe some aspect of the universe.
2. Invent a tentative description, called a hypothesis, that is consistent with what you have observed.
3. Use the hypothesis to make predictions.
4. Test those predictions by experiments or further observations and modify the hypothesis in the light of your results.
5. Repeat steps 3 and 4 until there are no discrepancies between theory and experiment and/or observation.
When consistency is obtained the hypothesis becomes a theory and provides a coherent set of propositions which explain a class of phenomena. A theory is then a framework within which observations are explained and predictions are made. "
To me, the last paragraph should be step 6...
So, evolution meets steps 1-3, but fails on 4-6. It is not testable, not reproduceable, and not verifiable. In fact, if we really are honest, it also fails on step 1 as it is not observable. Different species being here is, but evolution is not. So evolution does not fit any of secular science's requirements outside of being a hypothesis. So its not science.
But it SURE fits the definition of religion to a T.
True and pure science would say this - The earth is older than we are. There have been animals alive longer than we ourselves. Some of these animals, to our knowledge, are not alive any longer. Some of these animals have died and their bones have been burried and fossilized.
That's it. Anything more adds untestable, unreproduceable, unverifiable religously held belifes to the facts. The Bible becomes MORE reliable than anything else because science is making guesses, but God was actually THERE when it happened to tell us how it happened.
Bless...ArtS

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