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redstang281
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Message 1 of 25 (1781)
01-09-2002 4:10 PM


Is venus spinning backwards?
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Message 2 of 25 (1782)
01-09-2002 4:12 PM


Yes, but what's it got to do with creationism?
mark24
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Message 3 of 25 (1792)
01-09-2002 8:30 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by redstang281
01-09-2002 4:10 PM


& no, everything forming from a coalescing, spinning system DOESN'T have to spin the same way.

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Percy
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Message 4 of 25 (1814)
01-10-2002 10:01 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by redstang281
01-09-2002 4:10 PM


Hi, Redstang!

Welcome back! I hope you had a great holiday!

I'm sorry I took so long to reply, but I finally posted an answer to you at the Is the Bible the Word of God thread. If you're still interested take a look.

--Percy


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redstang281
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Message 5 of 25 (1830)
01-10-2002 1:25 PM
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01-10-2002 10:01 AM


quote:
Originally posted by Percipient:
Hi, Redstang!

Welcome back! I hope you had a great holiday!

I'm sorry I took so long to reply, but I finally posted an answer to you at the Is the Bible the Word of God thread. If you're still interested take a look.

--Percy


It became difficult to answer the volume of posts I was receiving. I'll try to get to that post.


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redstang281
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Message 6 of 25 (1831)
01-10-2002 1:41 PM
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01-09-2002 8:30 PM


quote:
Originally posted by mark24:
& no, everything forming from a coalescing, spinning system DOESN'T have to spin the same way.


why?


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Message 7 of 25 (1848)
01-10-2002 4:16 PM
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01-10-2002 1:41 PM


quote:
Originally posted by redstang281:
why?

Why should it?


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Message 8 of 25 (1849)
01-10-2002 4:43 PM
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01-10-2002 1:25 PM


"It became difficult to answer the volume of posts I was receiving. I'll try to get to that post. "

I know exactly what you mean! Posts totally pile up on me, I don't know what it is, mabye its cause I cause alot of riots in these forums, hehe, mabye its just cause I like a good discussion, or mabye Im just a good debater Hehe whatever it is I know it.

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Message 9 of 25 (1850)
01-10-2002 5:08 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by joz
01-10-2002 4:16 PM


Come on you guys, defend both your views if you can, it isn't about I asked you first so you go first or whatever. Frankely I would like to hear the evolutionists view on it.

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mark24
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Message 10 of 25 (1851)
01-10-2002 5:21 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by redstang281
01-10-2002 1:41 PM


quote:
Originally posted by redstang281:
why?

http://www.cosmiverse.com/space06140106.html

In summary, the planets rotation was never fast in the first place, but because of recent evidences of Venus' mantle structure, the friction would have caused even more slowing, as well as atmospheric friction (Venus' atmosphere is much denser than ours). Once the day becomes longer than the year, the planet is rotating "backwards".

Additionally, in a rotating, condensing, coalescing system, motion in the opposite direction is not precluded due to eddies, collision etc. Not that this has been shown to account for the spin of Venus.

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[This message has been edited by mark24, 01-11-2002]


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Message 11 of 25 (1871)
01-10-2002 9:49 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by mark24
01-10-2002 5:21 PM


Hi Mark,

Thanks for the link, it was right to the point. I wonder if you'd mind editing your post to add a sentence or two summarizing the link, it keeps the guidelines happy.

Thanks!

--Percy


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redstang281
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Message 12 of 25 (1908)
01-11-2002 12:51 PM
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01-10-2002 9:49 PM


What's the current theory of the formation of the universe?
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redstang281
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Message 13 of 25 (1909)
01-11-2002 12:53 PM
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01-10-2002 4:43 PM


[b] [QUOTE]
I know exactly what you mean! Posts totally pile up on me, I don't know what it is, mabye its cause I cause alot of riots in these forums, hehe, mabye its just cause I like a good discussion, or mabye Im just a good debater Hehe whatever it is I know it.
[/b][/QUOTE]

Yes sir, we are the dreaded creationists. It's fun to team up on us


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Message 14 of 25 (1910)
01-11-2002 1:01 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by redstang281
01-11-2002 12:53 PM


[QUOTE]Originally posted by redstang281:
[b]
Yes sir, we are the dreaded creationists. It's fun to team up on us
[/QUOTE]

Umm given that you seem to be often in a minority as a virtue of your own beliefs, it seems slightly odd to complain that the ratio isn`t 1:1.

the mathmatics of it is quite simple, for example, given a population of 20 posters, 5 of which form one ideological group and the remainder another, if all posters post at the same rate then there will be more posts from one group than the other...

We are`nt ganging up on you there are just more of us...


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redstang281
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Message 15 of 25 (1915)
01-11-2002 1:46 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by joz
01-11-2002 1:01 PM


quote:
Originally posted by joz:
Umm given that you seem to be often in a minority as a virtue of your own beliefs, it seems slightly odd to complain that the ratio isn`t 1:1.

the mathmatics of it is quite simple, for example, given a population of 20 posters, 5 of which form one ideological group and the remainder another, if all posters post at the same rate then there will be more posts from one group than the other...

We are`nt ganging up on you there are just more of us...


I'm allowed to joke once in a while, right?


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