Falsifying a young Universe. (re: Supernova 1987A)

If you google humphrey at this site you will find past discussion of that.

That wasn't the question asked. Are you haveing some trouble sticking to the issue at hand?This message has been edited by NosyNed, 01-18-2005 19:38 AM

Who was the fool who taught you that if the world is old then there is no God?

I don't know what this is supposed to mean. I doesn't seem to answer the question:"Who was the fool who taught you that if the world is old then there is no God? "A follow on would be that you explain the logic of this.This message has been edited by NosyNed, 01-20-2005 00:49 AM

No one has taught me that a young earth or an old earth means no God. There are many who have come here who want to say that an old earth means not God. I don't see the logic and agree with the majority of believers that those who try to show that God doesn't exist if the world is old are fools.God wrote only one record. It is the world around us. It's message is clear. It seems He disagrees with you.This message has been edited by NosyNed, 01-20-2005 01:11 AM

Hey don't give me the credit, I'm just going with the majority of Christians on this one.

This is good! But I had to read it twice and make little pictures to convince myself it was right.I'm going to see if I can make it clearer.We assume the ring radius is 1 unit (which is 1 light year).
We assume light was travelling at 3 times c at the time of the super nova.
We assume light slows down smoothly over the travel time to earth (I don't think it matters)In the constant c scenario 1 year after the supernova blew we have the direct beam to earth 1 light-year along the way to earth and the detour beam to be just at the ring and not started to earth at all.In the variable c scenario 1 year after the supernova blew we have the direct beam to earth as 3 light years to earth and the detour beam as having covered the distance to the ring AND cover 2 lightyears on the way to earth.Thus in either case the detour beam is 1 unit (1 of our current lightyears) behind the direct beam. It doesn't matter how c has varied.When the two beams finally reach earth the direct beam is 1 unit ahead of the other. If c has slowed down to it's official value we measure today the detour beam will take another year to arrive (if the unit was one lightyear of current c). We will then measure the ring radius to be 1 light year (at current c) no matter how light speed varied at the time.I don't know if that helps or not. I did me good anyway

Off the top of my head, I'd say it is way too close to apply this. The local group is gravitationally bound and won't be separating due to expansion.