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Author Topic:   Do some Christians need prejudice?
pink sasquatch
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Message 5 of 76 (178673)
01-19-2005 5:21 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by berberry
01-17-2005 2:25 PM


isn't it a fact that many fundamentalist sects feel that their own specific belief system is the one true belief system?
It's a fact insofar as I've personally experienced it - one church I visited I have particularly in mind, where the preacher specifically stated that no one outside of their own congregation had a true relationship with Christ, and thus were likely going to hell. (Needless to say I was disgusted.)
I guess my feeling on the source of the prejudice comes down to this: Why would you bother practicing a religion that wasn't the "best" religion, and thus "more true" than all other forms of religion? How do you convert people without the concept of being better than competitive sects? If you think your practice is the "best", then it follows that you view the practice of others as lesser.
It seems that some degree of prejudice is built into organized religion, otherwise it wouldn't be organized as a separate entity.

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pink sasquatch
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Message 22 of 76 (179034)
01-20-2005 6:04 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Swift
01-20-2005 5:37 PM


Re: dumbing it down
First: They were obveesly not true Baptist [because they believe certain groups are going to hell].
Then: if the person or persons is going to affect the wellbeing of evryone else they are sometimes deleted unless god has a purpose for them to be that way.
And: Homosexuals are also not true to each other like a man and a women are. Homosexuals will never be really married in the true sense because they only have perverse fellings for each other. Love children and family are largely not on the homo's mind.
If you represent a "true Baptist", then you've proven berberry's point. You are prejudiced against certain groups, and believe that they will be punished by God.
I don't know if "Christians need prejudice", as the thread title asks, but hopefully you realize that you definitely fall into the "prejudiced" category making rants like this.
Have you ever been friends with a homosexual person?
I probbly know more than you sence I proffesanalize in it.
I'm guessing that a professional historian would be able to spell "probably" and "since", and would know that "professionalize" is not a word, but would know how to spell it if it was.
As a stylistic note - why don't you try writing your posts in a word processing program so that you can run spell-check before posting? It would make your posts less painful to read.

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pink sasquatch
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Message 25 of 76 (179048)
01-20-2005 6:33 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by Swift
01-20-2005 6:25 PM


not too swift
be turned
ack.
I will not respond to your hate-speech, because of AdminAsgara's understandable warning above.
However, if you wish to discuss the other comments I made in my previous post, regarding you contradicting yourself regarding prejudice, feel free to respond to those comments.

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pink sasquatch
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Message 28 of 76 (179054)
01-20-2005 6:45 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by Swift
01-20-2005 6:37 PM


Re: not too swift
I said I would go the extra mile. Thats not hate speech.
You said you would go the extra mile to change them into something they are not.
That's like me saying I'm not racist because I befriend black people to bleach their skin white. It's absurd.
The truth is, getting back to the topic (somewhat), is that you hold negative and absolutely false misconceptions about a group of people that you have never interacted with on any level.
That is prejudice.
On top of that, you believe if that group doesn't "turn" away from their nature, that your God will punish them with wrath, possibly, to use your disgusting term, by "deleting" them.
That is mixing up your prejudice with your Christianity... and is not Christian at all.

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pink sasquatch
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Message 46 of 76 (179290)
01-21-2005 10:42 AM
Reply to: Message 43 by Swift
01-21-2005 12:53 AM


Re: Apologe
Secondly I want to apologize to pink saqutch for me saying he was not a christian it was not in my right to do so.
And thanks for that. Accepting homosexuality does not make someone not a Christian. In fact, if you have an example of Christ mentioning homosexuality I would love to see it - in another thread.
But that does not make you right on the hate speech part that also offended me.
I'm guessing you don't realize that simply using the derogatory label "homos" would be deemed hate-speech by many people.
You say you aren't using hate-speech, that you speak the "truth". One man's "truth" is another man's hate-speech. Some people speak what they believe to be "true", like "all people with black skin are lazy" or "all Baptist men beat their wives". These things aren't true, they are rooted in ignorance and prejudice.
I believe that all of your statements regarding homosexuality come from similar ignorance and prejudice. You've made some blanket statements about homosexuality without providing any evidence whatsoever.
Please, take Asgara's advice and enter a discussion in one of the homosexuality threads, or start your own (or at least read existing ones). I'll be happy to continue our discussion there, but this will likely be my last response to you in this thread.
I think you can learn a lot, and perhaps you'll realize why your statements appear so hateful.

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