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Author Topic:   Current status/developments in Intelligent Design Theory
CK
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Message 5 of 112 (179950)
01-23-2005 1:55 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by Silent H
01-23-2005 5:29 AM


Bump
Well I know we have plenty of people here who support ID, didn't want them to miss out on this.
so let's see who gets the ball rolling.....

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Message 7 of 112 (179972)
01-23-2005 3:45 PM
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01-23-2005 1:55 PM


Re: Bump
I guess I'll start us and see if anyone joins in:
A quick google turns up this site:
Intelligent Design Network – Seeking Objectivity in Origins Science
quote:
We believe objectivity will lead not only to good origins science, but also to constitutional neutrality in this subjective, historical science that unavoidably impacts religion. We promote the scientific evidence of intelligent design because proper consideration of that evidence is necessary to achieve not only scientific objectivity but also constitutional neutrality.
The nearest thing I can find to an overview is this:
http://www.intelligentdesignnetwork.org/...HarrisCalvert.pdf
It states that:
quote:
The central claim of ID theory is that design is empirically detectable. For most people, design detection is an intuitive process that occurs without any thoughtful deliberation.
  —pg12
This is nothing new and echos previous claims about intelligent design. In addition,there is lots of the normal "evolution is wrong in this way therefore".
I've looked around the site and the rest is equally as vague.
I've searched for a bit more on the internet but all the ID sites seem equally vague.
You IDers want to help the rest of us out?

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Message 9 of 112 (179979)
01-23-2005 4:06 PM
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01-23-2005 4:00 PM


Re: Bump
Thanks for that - I should have been more clear with my words - I hightlighted that section BECAUSE it represents the "it's all around us innit!" approach.
So I guess we will just wait for ID friends to help us out....

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Message 12 of 112 (180116)
01-24-2005 5:23 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by Demosthenes Fan
01-23-2005 6:39 PM


Bump
I just can't understand this lack of response....come on IDers where are you?

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Message 13 of 112 (180147)
01-24-2005 8:46 AM
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01-24-2005 5:23 AM


Re: Bump
I've decided to see if some christians on another board may be able to point the way - for that aim I've basically stole the first post (thank Holmes!!!)
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Message 15 of 112 (180184)
01-24-2005 10:37 AM
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01-24-2005 10:21 AM


Re: Bump
I fail to see the SETI connection that they make - maybe I'm just stupid but I don't see how it links to intelligent design (in the manner they use it).
Can someone explain it to me?

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Message 18 of 112 (180943)
01-26-2005 7:21 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Silent H
01-24-2005 10:59 AM


Map? what's a map?
and then a familar face turned up:
Thread found here
(totally off topic but not worth a thread of it's own).
edited by AdminJar to fix long link
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Message 21 of 112 (181006)
01-27-2005 1:59 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by pink sasquatch
01-27-2005 12:19 AM


Come on IDers!
Why don't you want to take this one on?
What's the problem?

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Message 45 of 112 (200771)
04-20-2005 8:33 PM


Some recent ID Research!
http://www.iscid.org/papers/Chavez_Biodiversity_011505.pdf
it's from:
http://www.iscid.org/boards/ubb-get_topic-f-6-t-000553.html
Comments?
(Hum... most species come from a....single kind - lots of gene pool fun!)
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Message 56 of 112 (206234)
05-08-2005 7:37 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by Limbo
05-08-2005 6:50 PM


How is that a development in theory or even the moving towards some coherent thoughts on the matter? a op-ed piece?
Is that really the best thing you can put forward to us? Doesn't that tell you something?
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Message 58 of 112 (206236)
05-08-2005 7:46 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by Limbo
05-08-2005 7:44 PM


I take the smiley in the spirit that it's intended but you've lost me?
This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 08-May-2005 07:50 PM

Literalistic young earth creationism is an insult to God, suggesting that he would arbitrarily and capriciously break his own exquisite laws whenever it suited him. Worse, the evidence for the fact of evolution is so knockdown overwhelming that we can reconcile it with young earth creationism only by assuming that God deliberately planted false evidence, in the rocks and in the genetic molecules, to trick us. Could a cruder blasphemy be imagined?
Bishop of Oxford

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Message 61 of 112 (212184)
05-28-2005 8:09 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by mick
05-28-2005 6:57 PM


Re: Origins & Design journal
The ARN homepage tells me everything I need to know...
http://www.arn.org/index.html

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Message 100 of 112 (322880)
06-18-2006 11:32 AM


Bump - so what is happening at the moment?
Came across this old thread - ID supporters check out message 1 and then let know what's going on.
Edited by CK, : No reason given.

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Message 101 of 112 (331373)
07-13-2006 5:09 AM
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06-18-2006 11:32 AM


Crashfrog the all-seeing
Crashfrog writes:
23-Jan-2005 03:43 PM IP Logged
...tumbleweeds....
I predict that this thread will comprise entirely of "bumps" and "hello? Anybody posting here?" messages.
Is this thing on? Anyone want to tell us what cutting edge work IDers are upto at the moment?
Edited by CK, : No reason given.

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Message 102 of 112 (443035)
12-23-2007 2:01 PM
Reply to: Message 101 by CK
07-13-2006 5:09 AM


it's back!
So it's 2007 coming into 2008 - any ID's willing to step up and take a stab at what's set out in post 1?
Roll up roll up!

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