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acmhttu001_2006
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Message 10 of 37 (18041)
09-23-2002 12:09 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by blitz77
09-23-2002 10:38 AM


First off, if I want to verify something, I do not want to read abstracts of a book. I would rather read the book. Abstracts are not written by the book's authors, and merely reflects what someone else thinks the author is saying.
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Anne C. McGuire
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Chemistry and Physics minors
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acmhttu001_2006
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Message 11 of 37 (18042)
09-23-2002 12:11 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by blitz77
09-23-2002 10:46 AM


Yes and how do you think they got this protection?
I do not believe that the organisms of today could live in eons ago, nor vice versa. I believe the organism evolved to fit their surroundings.
Even though this is not the scope of the thread. There is no way we will ever find out how life started, why becuase we can't. Do not know why. I guess this is where the Magesterium of Religion and Beliefs come in. As for me, I do not need to know all the answers.
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Anne C. McGuire
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Chemistry and Physics minors
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acmhttu001_2006
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Message 14 of 37 (18190)
09-24-2002 11:43 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Andya Primanda
09-24-2002 11:32 PM


Oh really, but I do mention if I am answering within a certain Magesterium.
Sure it sounds paradoxical. I do not believe in a God nor that such a entity exists. As for morals I define them. But, I can understand a little where the religionists are coming from, as I have grown up in such a household.
I am not appealing to the Magesterium of Religion in the last post you were replying to. I think the original post was in response to gene40, wanted to know what her answer would be outside a scientific answer, and if she could back it up. Guess not, I do not know what her answer is.
Sorry if it looked like I was going to the other camp. Excuse me.
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Anne C. McGuire
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Chemistry and Physics minors
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acmhttu001_2006
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Message 15 of 37 (18192)
09-24-2002 11:48 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by peter borger
09-24-2002 11:40 PM


Now, why would I have said that they evolve to fit their surroundings? Not based off of my beliefs alone, but becuase of the evidence.
Do you believe in gravity or in thermodynamics? You are a fool to answer no, yet if you answer yes, surely these are not religious beliefs.
Though I will not argue, for some it is possible to make anything of their own choosing into their own personal religion. Evolution is not my choice of religion. I have none. Besides, since when did belief make something into a religion. Surely, you are not so narrow-minded as to say that works all the way across the boards?
And this is what PISSES me off, are people like you who misquote everything I say to make it justify their points. I have never done that to any of the creationist nor the others whom I may not agree with. I have that respect for them, and expect the same in return. So, before you begin to misquote anyone, ask for clarification, and then confront if their clarification does coincide with what you thought. Otherwise, keep you gosh-danged math shut and not assume.
HAve a nice day.
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Anne C. McGuire
Cell and Molecular, Mathematics, Piano and Vocal Performance Majors
Chemistry and Physics minors
Thanks and have a nice day

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acmhttu001_2006
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Message 28 of 37 (18268)
09-25-2002 1:30 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by peter borger
09-25-2002 12:09 AM


Ok, so you are willing to throw out the rest of the evidence, just to confirm that evolution is a belief. Ok, let's do away with archeology, and palentology, and the rest of the dating system.
Evolution cannot be proven you are right, but it does not mean someday it will be proven. You are right, everything that we know and everything that we do, come off a perferential belief THAT IS BASED ON EVIDENCE.
So, by your argument, belief in gravity is unfounded, since we cannot reproduce gravity. Consensus is not static, it is dynamic with new discoveries. Guess gravity is a bunch of boloney.
Your argument is more of a philosophical slant than more scientific. Philosophical beliefs belong in the Magesterium of Religion, they have no place in science. [not all beliefs]
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Anne C. McGuire
Cell and Molecular, Mathematics, Piano and Vocal Performance Majors
Chemistry and Physics minors
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acmhttu001_2006
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Message 29 of 37 (18269)
09-25-2002 1:31 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by blitz77
09-25-2002 8:35 AM


How do we know we can reproduce the conditions as they were on ancient earth. We are not 100% sure we are doing so.
So by this, can we not leave open the possiblity of primordial soup happening. Do not get me started in probabilities.
We cannot be sure of any experiments that we do with 100% certainity.
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Anne C. McGuire
Cell and Molecular, Mathematics, Piano and Vocal Performance Majors
Chemistry and Physics minors
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acmhttu001_2006
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Message 30 of 37 (18270)
09-25-2002 1:33 PM
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09-25-2002 8:40 AM


Ok, I am open to life being formed in fresh water also, We need more research that is evident before we can reedit science.
I am not that close-minded as some think. Good site, plan to peruse it at my leisure.
And yes, I believe the site had logic.
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Anne C. McGuire
Cell and Molecular, Mathematics, Piano and Vocal Performance Majors
Chemistry and Physics minors
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acmhttu001_2006
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Message 31 of 37 (18271)
09-25-2002 1:34 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by derwood
09-25-2002 9:48 AM


me??????
or Peter????
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Anne C. McGuire
Cell and Molecular, Mathematics, Piano and Vocal Performance Majors
Chemistry and Physics minors
Thanks and have a nice day

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acmhttu001_2006
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Message 32 of 37 (18272)
09-25-2002 1:35 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by Joe Meert
09-25-2002 11:54 AM


Thanks for posting this.
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Anne C. McGuire
Cell and Molecular, Mathematics, Piano and Vocal Performance Majors
Chemistry and Physics minors
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acmhttu001_2006
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Message 35 of 37 (18570)
09-30-2002 2:08 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by derwood
09-25-2002 6:20 PM


Do not like quoting persons, as it nicely puts underneath the body of the message in nice orange letters who the message is replied to.
No need to duplicate more information, and secondly, I am not sure how to use quote button, becuase it quotes the whole darn article. And I hate that.
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Anne C. McGuire
Cell and Molecular, Mathematics, Piano and Vocal Performance Majors
Chemistry and Physics minors
Thanks and have a nice day

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