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jar
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Message 5 of 64 (181454)
01-28-2005 5:48 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by New Cat's Eye
01-28-2005 5:27 PM


Re: where are we going?
You seem to think that evolution has some directionality? It doesn't. It's simply a history of what did happen.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 10 of 64 (181478)
01-28-2005 7:41 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by New Cat's Eye
01-28-2005 7:23 PM


Re: where are we going?
The history of what happened has a direction, from simple to complex life, from primative apes to modern humans.
You think so? If you look, most life is still very simple. In addition, when all that exists is a single cell organism, there is only one possible direction.
But today's apes are as much evolved as humans when compared to the species that preceeded them.
Where are we going?
Again, that implies direction. There is no direction or purpose to evolution.
This question assumes that humans are still evolving, which I originally stated that I didn't think we are, but someone said we were, and I wondered...into what?
Sure we're evolving just like everything else around us. One example is the new genetic changes that are showing up that provide resistance to malaria without the drawbacks that come with sickle cell.
But asking "into what" really makes no sense. Again, there is no direction to evolution, no purpose. What you can say is that if you looked back at today's humans from, say, a few hundred thousand years in the future, there will have been changes.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 18 of 64 (181508)
01-28-2005 9:09 PM
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01-28-2005 8:47 PM


Re: where are we going?
Again, I must say I want to get away from micro-evolution and talk about macro-evoltion, where a species evolves from another species.
I think you'll find that macro-evolution is simply the accumulation of micro changes over long periods of time. I don't know anyone other than creationists that even use the term macro-evolution, and they can't even describe what it is. LOL
As far as humans and evolving, and changing alleles...what changes do you think will happen to us, over the course of many generations?
Who knows? How can anyone predict something that is simply the result of random mutations being filtered through Natural Selection?
Will they all just be genetic subtleties or something more physically noticeable?
Again, who knows? Whether it is a major physical change or not will only be known after the fact, long long after. Either way it will most likely be the result of many small changes over extended periods. Any major sudden physical change is far less likely although not impossible.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 55 of 64 (213669)
06-02-2005 8:45 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by MangyTiger
06-02-2005 8:27 PM


Re: Modes of future human evolution
If there is any sign some form of genetic manipulation of humans will confer a signicant economic or military benefit then the US will find a way to overcome whatever objections it has - even if the government in power at the time is ideologically similar to the current one.
Actually, we are already doing just that. The research is ongoing at Area 104 which, if you ask anyone in Government, doesn't exist. One clear indication in support of this is that there are no funds allocated in the budget to either Area 104 or to Project Gotham.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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