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crashfrog
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Message 151 of 287 (181542)
01-29-2005 1:53 AM
Reply to: Message 149 by daaaaaBEAR
01-29-2005 1:13 AM


It doesn't bother me but it should bother you and others who follow the same logic.
Why? I'd rather be mostly right, and getting righter, than eternally and unchangingly wrong.
Knowledge about our universe will probably always increase but what about the truth?
Since it can't be known, who cares?
Portraying these theories as fact is hypocrisy
Who is? Don't blame us because you can't tell the difference between tentativity and certainty.

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crashfrog
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From: Silver Spring, MD
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Message 152 of 287 (181543)
01-29-2005 1:53 AM
Reply to: Message 150 by daaaaaBEAR
01-29-2005 1:18 AM


This life is short, you better figure it out.
Why?

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daaaaaBEAR
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Message 153 of 287 (181550)
01-29-2005 2:07 AM
Reply to: Message 152 by crashfrog
01-29-2005 1:53 AM


Why?
Because you only get one life unless you believe in reincarnation (make you sure you reincarnate into a rich family).
Exodus 9:16
"But I have raised you up for this very purpose, that I might show you my power and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth."
John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."

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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1467 days)
Posts: 19762
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Message 154 of 287 (181553)
01-29-2005 2:12 AM
Reply to: Message 153 by daaaaaBEAR
01-29-2005 2:07 AM


Because you only get one life unless you believe in reincarnation
You don't seem to understand, so let me make it more clear: what makes you think that I'm interested in having a "purpose"?

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daaaaaBEAR
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Message 155 of 287 (181557)
01-29-2005 2:19 AM
Reply to: Message 154 by crashfrog
01-29-2005 2:12 AM


You don't seem to understand, so let me make it more clear: what makes you think that I'm interested in having a "purpose"?
Human nature, the longing for something this world cannot satisfy. I won't spurt Bible passages at you. How can someone live without a purpose for living?
I'll change my question. What happens after you die?
After you leave this life that you wished would have been longer? What then?

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simple 
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Message 156 of 287 (181565)
01-29-2005 2:32 AM
Reply to: Message 136 by daaaaaBEAR
01-28-2005 3:22 AM


Yeah, you could be right. carry on

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berberry
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Message 157 of 287 (181566)
01-29-2005 2:33 AM
Reply to: Message 155 by daaaaaBEAR
01-29-2005 2:19 AM


The purpose of life
daaaaaBEAR asks:
quote:
How can someone live without a purpose for living?
Because they were born, maybe?
quote:
I'll change my question. What happens after you die?
That's not changing the question, that's asking a new one. I don't know what will happen when I die, except that perhaps my survivors will be kind enough to hold a funeral. This is not something I waste time worrying about.

Keep America Safe AND Free!

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daaaaaBEAR
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Message 158 of 287 (181569)
01-29-2005 2:40 AM
Reply to: Message 157 by berberry
01-29-2005 2:33 AM


Re: The purpose of life
This is not something I waste time worrying about.
Your right, it's probably not wise to worry about dying. But if you believe in heaven and hell/God and Satan then you better start to ponder where your going on Judgment Day.
Of course one is obviously able to live just by living but what's the point? To merely exist?

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berberry
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Message 159 of 287 (181571)
01-29-2005 2:55 AM
Reply to: Message 158 by daaaaaBEAR
01-29-2005 2:40 AM


Re: The purpose of life
daaaaaBEAR writes me:
quote:
But if you believe in heaven and hell/God and Satan...
I don't.
quote:
Of course one is obviously able to live just by living but what's the point? To merely exist?
On one level this question is highly insulting because it carries with it the implication that to not believe as you do is to not find any purpose or meaning in life. I find plenty of purposes: enjoying myself chief among them. There's also the desire to help other people and do what I can to improve this world for those who come after me.
I enjoy life and I don't need the promise of heaven or threat of hell to enhance that enjoyment.

Keep America Safe AND Free!

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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1467 days)
Posts: 19762
From: Silver Spring, MD
Joined: 03-20-2003


Message 160 of 287 (181572)
01-29-2005 2:56 AM
Reply to: Message 155 by daaaaaBEAR
01-29-2005 2:19 AM


How can someone live without a purpose for living?
Think hard. Again, I'm under no obligation to address your failure of imagination.
I'll change my question. What happens after you die?
Not on topic in this thread.

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lfen
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Message 161 of 287 (181573)
01-29-2005 2:56 AM
Reply to: Message 158 by daaaaaBEAR
01-29-2005 2:40 AM


Re: The purpose of life
merely exist?
What distinction are you making between "exist" and "merely exist"?
lfen

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Coragyps
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Posts: 5553
From: Snyder, Texas, USA
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Message 162 of 287 (181631)
01-29-2005 9:36 AM
Reply to: Message 155 by daaaaaBEAR
01-29-2005 2:19 AM


What happens after you die?
Your book has that one right - we return to dust.

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AdminNosy
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From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Joined: 11-11-2003


Message 163 of 287 (181645)
01-29-2005 10:58 AM


Closing until everyone figures out what the topic is
As I warned yesterday; closing for a few hours while participants figure out what the topic is.

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AdminNosy
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Message 164 of 287 (181683)
01-29-2005 3:10 PM
Reply to: Message 163 by AdminNosy
01-29-2005 10:58 AM


Opened again
However I will watch it a bit more closly for awhile.

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daaaaaBEAR
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Message 165 of 287 (183202)
02-05-2005 2:12 AM


back to the big bang
The main reason why I see the Big Bang as a dud is because there's no scientific law that allows something to come from nothing. If there was nothing in the universe to begin with then how was their a natural beginning? It's impossible.
I think its funny how this colossal flaw is ignored while many theories that try to explain the Big Bang AFTER the fact that there was nothing in which to even commence the Big Bang.
I also keep hearing that the "Big Bang" is more of an expansion. Why not change the name to the "Big Expansion". It would save a lot of petty arguments.

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