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Author Topic:   Gettin' Banned - Our favorite moments
RAZD
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Message 16 of 121 (181801)
01-30-2005 8:55 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by berberry
01-30-2005 4:07 AM


Re: bump
I am not sure if I was banned on one, because it was mutual if I was. It was a forum that was supposed to discuss a wide variety of faiths, but it was really christian bashing of all other faiths as far as I could see.
As a lone deist in a pack of christian wolves it was interesting the arguments that were used -- all the logical fallacies that you see here.
I don't remember the forum, and I am sure that there are a lot like it.

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ohnhai
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Message 17 of 121 (181803)
01-30-2005 9:10 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by Percy
01-30-2005 8:08 AM


Re: you can argue , so long as you agree with us..
Such a rule here might cause a few howls!
from the scientific end of the community as much as the religious end, would be my guess.

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Quetzal
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Message 18 of 121 (181821)
01-30-2005 11:31 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by berberry
01-30-2005 4:07 AM


Re: bump
Sorry, no. There've been a number of boards where I decided to simply stop posting for one reason or another (ARN and CapitolHillBlue, for example), but I've never had an account terminated for cause (or for "just be-cause" ). I guess I'm such a wimp no one ever thought it worthwhile to waste time banning me. OTOH, I've not wasted a whole lot of time on the fundy boards, which may have something to do with it. I never felt the urge to engage in irrational discussion with closed-minded bigots on their own turf...

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crashfrog
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Message 19 of 121 (181823)
01-30-2005 11:41 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by Percy
01-30-2005 8:08 AM


If we were to have an equivalent rule
An equivalent rule would be slightly less fair than yours; as Christianity.com's rule restricts its participants not just to Christianity but evangelical Christianity in particular, so too would "Rule 11" have to be similarly restrictive.

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jar
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Message 20 of 121 (181827)
01-30-2005 11:58 AM


Well, I've been banned
from TO. The specific reason was that I said ID was silly. The interesting thing is that after banning me Terry supposedly posted a message explaining why. Of course, since I was banned, I couldn't get in to see or respond to the message.
From what I've been able to gather, the reason was that I attacked another's (read Terry) beliefs. My personal opinion is that religious beliefs are of the individual, and I may disagree with someone's religious beliefs but try not to call them silly. But when we move into the world of science, then beliefs, theories, hypotheses are fair game. If they can be show incorrect then it's everyones duty to point out the flaws.
If I had simply said ID was silly without supporting my position I'd say Terry had been right. Since I did support my position I think Terry screwed up.

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roxrkool
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Message 21 of 121 (181840)
01-30-2005 12:40 PM


I've never been banned from discussing creation/evolution issues, but have been banned a couple times for defending internet friends. However, I've never joined an extremely strict Creation board, either.
I belong to only one Christian board and I joined to discuss evolution. After a while, I thought it might be nice to get to know people a little better and be part of the 'community,' but I had to stop. I was getting so angry reading all the anti-gay and anti-anything-not-fundy bullshit.
Not only was I getting annoyed, but I found it depressing as hell. It was affecting my personal outlook and optimism on life. Now I stick to science and that's it. I have no desire to get to know bigots any better.

  
nator
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Message 22 of 121 (181842)
01-30-2005 12:49 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by berberry
01-30-2005 4:07 AM


Re: bump
I was banned without warning from the "Was Darwin Right?" guestbook and had several posts removed, although some of them still remain.
http://www.wasdarwinright.net/
I then had a week long e-mail discussion with a couple of the site managers about their various creationist views, and the ignorance they had of all things scientific. They gave up trying to debate me.
They think they have all of this convincing information but they would be torn to shreds here in about a day.

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Brad McFall
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Message 23 of 121 (181844)
01-30-2005 12:52 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by berberry
01-30-2005 4:07 AM


Re: bump
Nope, people just dont/didnt know what I was doing.
ICR let me go on good terms. The task I bring is more science than religion so it made some sense everyway.

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Morte
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Message 24 of 121 (181947)
01-30-2005 10:35 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Percy
01-30-2005 8:08 AM


Re: you can argue , so long as you agree with us..
quote:
17. Do not make statements either by posts or posting URLs to other Websites which advocate activities, beliefs or teachings contrary to those of Christianity as articulated by the historic creeds, as understood by Evangelicalism, and as interpreted by Christianity.com its sole discretion.
Yeah, I noticed that when I read the link Jacen posted in this thread earlier (about the Bible and homosexuality) - the moderator was prohibiting people from writing about the thread that the original post was complaining about because it interpreted Scripture in a way not in accordance with their view. Made me kind of wonder what's left to discuss when the rules essentially say that everyone must agree with a single viewpoint.

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crashfrog
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Message 25 of 121 (181954)
01-30-2005 10:56 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by nator
01-30-2005 12:49 PM


Re: bump
I then had a week long e-mail discussion with a couple of the site managers
Personally, I refuse to debate this topic, or pretty much any other topic, via email. The odds of convincing someone motivated not by evidence but by ideology are infinitesimal at best. Here, at least, there's the possibility of convincing a lurker. Not to mention, the public nature of the forum keeps people on the up-and-up.
But if you have the stomach for it, good luck.

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berberry
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Message 26 of 121 (181976)
01-31-2005 1:08 AM
Reply to: Message 25 by crashfrog
01-30-2005 10:56 PM


crashfrog:
quote:
The odds of convincing someone motivated not by evidence but by ideology are infinitesimal at best. Here, at least, there's the possibility of convincing a lurker. Not to mention, the public nature of the forum keeps people on the up-and-up.
I wouldn't go for an email debate either, but I think we probably do a little more than just influence the odd lurker. I think there are probably some creos who drop out of here but who perhaps start to question things. Maybe we've said something that, one of these days or years, he or she may see reflected in something they witness themselves.
Point is that I've seen quite a number of hard-core creos convert to (at least) liberal, science-friendly Christianity. I can count the number of people I've seen go the other way on less than one finger (not counting people who temporarily went fundy owing to a drug or alcohol rehab program).

Keep America Safe AND Free!

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Mammuthus
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Message 27 of 121 (181991)
01-31-2005 5:56 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by Percy
01-30-2005 8:08 AM


Re: you can argue , so long as you agree with us..
quote:
Anyway, for the record, any and all views are permitted here as long as they're supported by evidence and reasoned argument
How do you explain Syamsu then?
Out of curiosity, having seen John Davison at Terry's site threatening everyone (his latest threats to contact the FBI with the names and addresses of Vik and TGS and declare them threats to the US), insulting everyone, and generally off topic ranting, what exactly did you do to get banned?
In my short time lurking over there, I have seen two evolutionists get banned and in both cases for calling creationism pseudoscience. I have yet to see a creationist get banned no matter how extreme their behavior.
As to the topic of this thread...I have never been banned from a site...but Percy suspended me once

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Wounded King
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Message 28 of 121 (181994)
01-31-2005 6:11 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by Mammuthus
01-31-2005 5:56 AM


I've never been banned anywhere, maybe I just need to make more stuff up rather than relying on an old fashioned 'reality' based approach to debate.
TTFN,
WK

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Mammuthus
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Message 29 of 121 (182004)
01-31-2005 7:08 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by Wounded King
01-31-2005 6:11 AM


Just go to Terry Talkorigins site, register, and then in your first post type the word pseudoscience. You will be banned right away without the fuss of having to imitate Syamsu.

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CK
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Message 30 of 121 (182041)
01-31-2005 10:57 AM
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01-31-2005 7:08 AM


I suspect that I will be shortly edited out of existance for daring to question the conduct of the mods over at:
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